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Hi all i need help in getting the right gear for my vl turbo and i have no idea about what to get and no idea about vl's but i obviously want to learn hope you can help
I need a fuel system all i have is injectors they are Bosch 036's rated for 550hp in standard fuel pressure they came with the engine but i may need to get different ones if they are not good enough
I also need a computer system for it i have no idea what so ever and any help will be great
The block is built to the same specks as a vl i haven't heard about for ages BOOSTR the power i am looking at getting is around 250-350rwkw i will be happy with any power within that range for now
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2x 044
1x lift pump
surge tank
as for ecu
if you want a plug in id go link
if not id be going autronic
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Thanks for your help i have been talking to some mates and i reckon im sweet now with the fuel system 044 pump and 040 internal one with surge tank
Don't have any idea about ecu's so i'm not sure what you mean link/autronic
i know what you mean with plug in
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Originally Posted by Katsa
2x 044
1x lift pump
surge tank
as for ecu
if you want a plug in id go link
if not id be going autronic
Also wondering if there is anyone on this site that sells everything i need id rather get it all in one go at a good price then go looking around for everything separate at cheap prices
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Originally Posted by Katsa
2x 044
1x lift pump
surge tank
as for ecu
if you want a plug in id go link
if not id be going autronic
twin 044 is alot isnt it...
im aiming around 250-280rwkw prob abit less then you, got gtr 440cc coming in the mail and picking up a haltech e6x tomra night also twin standard pumps with a 2L surge tank.
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Any good workshop will sort you out.
Personalyl for that power Id go a plugin Vipec V44 - excellent computer, and dont go autronic they WERE great but they are old and outdated now.
Id use 1000cc rochester injectors at $85 a pop they are great value and will happily run at a low 220rwkw and still have plenty of head room to go much much higher.
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LINK G3 but if you have money go the new LINK G4. Also their's a LINK G4 Storm.
LINK G4 Extreme specs
G4 Xtreme Key Features
New enclosure
Lightweight loom
Waterproof connectors
Up to 6D fuel and ignition mapping
Precision closed loop cam control (four cam, independent control)
Up to 8 channel sequential fuel and ignition
Large number configurable input and output channels
Digital triggering, all OEM patterns
Rotary - up to four rotors, fully sequentially staged injection and sequential ignition
OEM idle hardware supported
8 peak and hold individually configurable injection drives
5D boost control with three switchable tables
Motorsport features - antilag, launch, flat shift
Continuous barometric correction (on board)
CAN port
QuickTune - automated fuel tuning
Individual cylinder correction
Odd-fire engines & two-strokes
USB tuning cable included
Stats recording into on-board memory
Gear compensations for spark, boost and fuel
Real time selectable dual fuel, ignition and boost maps
Sync and crank sensors can be a combination of Hall effect, variable reluctance or optical
Boost control referenced to gear, speed or throttle position
Up to 4Mb internal logging memory
Staged injection
Closed loop knock control
Electronic throttle control (available shortly)
Firmware updates available online (http://www.linkecu.com/support/software-downloads/pclink-download/pclink-download) (linkecu.com)
Brief Specification8 peak and hold individually configurable injection drives
eight ignition outputs
ten analog inputs
four temperature inputs
ten digital inputs
eight auxiliary outputs
two, thirty four pin, waterproof connectors (http://www.linkecu.com/products/engine-management/Wire-In/xtremespectestpage)
external, 2.5 bar or 5 bar, MAP sensor (sold separately)
e-throttle (available soon)
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vipec and link look identical and have identical features.
The vipec VL plugin is slightly better then a V44, as it has 6x injector outputs in low impedance peak and hold injectors, and 6x ignition outputs, so you can run sequential injection and 6xcoils,
opposed to the v44s 4x ignition and injection and they are also high impedance only
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Look as everyone knows im a motec man, more than enough to do anything you ever could need as well as future power ups without a hassle. Im a firm believer you get what you pay for period. However the real question is not only what is your budget, but most importantly - "How fast do you want to go?"
however - find your workshop and tuner, and then maybe go with the ECU they are best at tuning, provided you have done your homework of course.
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Wow,
I think everyone may be missing I vital piece of information.
What is the car going to be used for?
Is it just a street car that just requires coils and injectors to be driven?
Are you going to drag race or use the car on a track?
Manual, auto etc.
There are many great ECU's on the market, most of them with heaps of features. But instead of "which ECU is best for me" let us know what you require from your ECU. If its just Control my injectors, Then sell your 036's as the only have half an ohm resistance and get something the will run with nistune.
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10-12-09, 08:35 GMT+10#10 Im in the same situation...im leaning towards 440cc injectors and new fuel rail....044 pump..pierburg lift pump and nistune... im chasing under 300kw...what you guys think?
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10-12-09, 09:23 GMT+10#11 1 x 044
72gph carter lift pump
2ltr surge tank,
my old car had this and was making 488rwhp but that was with 880cc seimens,
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10-12-09, 09:46 GMT+10#12 So true thanks, the car is going to be used for mostly street but i will be on the occasion taken on the strip as i live in Albury/Wodonga (no strip here), it is an auto,
I don't know what the functions are for ecu's and how much they can do what would be great for me would be something that can have a couple different programs so it can be changed to get different power outputs from the car i.e sreet setting/strip setting
My budget is as follows i have $4000 to do fuel/ecu and hopefully have a little left to help my with rego
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Originally Posted by HYPED6
Wow,
I think everyone may be missing I vital piece of information.
What is the car going to be used for?
Is it just a street car that just requires coils and injectors to be driven?
Are you going to drag race or use the car on a track?
Manual, auto etc.
There are many great ECU's on the market, most of them with heaps of features. But instead of "which ECU is best for me" let us know what you require from your ECU. If its just Control my injectors, Then sell your 036's as the only have half an ohm resistance and get something the will run with nistune.
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10-12-09, 10:47 GMT+10#13 that should cover it mate. $200 for an 044 pump, $70 for a standard intank pump which is plenty, $200 for a surge tank. $$500 for injectors and $200 for a rail. $1200 should cover the cover the fuel system. $2000 installed should get you a decent ecu. $800 will get u ur rego. DONE!
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10-12-09, 12:19 GMT+10#14 sounds sweet i live between melbourne and sydney where should i go to get this done?? north or south
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Originally Posted by Nukz
that should cover it mate. $200 for an 044 pump, $70 for a standard intank pump which is plenty, $200 for a surge tank. $$500 for injectors and $200 for a rail. $1200 should cover the cover the fuel system. $2000 installed should get you a decent ecu. $800 will get u ur rego. DONE!
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10-12-09, 12:21 GMT+10#15 Whose tuning it?
Ask your tuner what he prefures and be done with it.
If I was going to do it in a VLT..
Haltec or MoTeC
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10-12-09, 15:34 GMT+10#16 truth be told youll never be happy with what you have hence the 2 x044, you may aswell go the 2 now and save yourself from hasles later on.
As for injectors id prob sell the 550's you have and go 1000's
Link is the brand of ecu id opt. for if you were to go a plug in ecu.
Or autronic if you were to go whole hog in my opinion
I can get you 044 at 190 each and 1000's for 72 each lift pumps 100 bux ( pierburg (intank)
But as said speak to your tuner.
If you need a good one call 9469 2566 hell be able to help you with tuning etc
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11-12-09, 14:03 GMT+10#17 Thanks mate yeah i see where you are coming from once i get used to the power i will want more lol.
I am looking into a tuner now as i am in albury i need to make the right choice as i will have to trailor the car at least 400km to get to the tuner
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Originally Posted by Katsa
truth be told youll never be happy with what you have hence the 2 x044, you may aswell go the 2 now and save yourself from hasles later on.
As for injectors id prob sell the 550's you have and go 1000's
Link is the brand of ecu id opt. for if you were to go a plug in ecu.
Or autronic if you were to go whole hog in my opinion
I can get you 044 at 190 each and 1000's for 72 each lift pumps 100 bux ( pierburg (intank)
But as said speak to your tuner.
If you need a good one call 9469 2566 hell be able to help you with tuning etc
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11-12-09, 14:34 GMT+10#18 hopefully not too far off topic
is there an alternative to a new intank vlt pump to feed a surge tank ? im looking for a lil more insurance than that and i wanna know whats involved in swapping up to a bigger intank pump
can you get something thats a straight swap that flows more ?
cheers
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11-12-09, 16:22 GMT+10#19 You can take the internal pump out & just get the feed tube extended and put a carter lift pump on the outside of the tank somewhere..
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13-12-09, 07:11 GMT+10#20 Quote:
Originally Posted by vlct86
Thanks for your help i have been talking to some mates and i reckon im sweet now with the fuel system 044 pump and 040 internal one with surge tank
040 is a pressure pump (like the 044) designed to run intank. You want a lift pump in the tank, not a pressure pump, to feed the surge tank.
AC Delco used to sell a high volume direct fit pump for the VL, but i'm not sure if they still do it.
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