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need help wiring up injected 5L in a factory vl v8

Started by demo · 4 Dec 2009 · 15 replies

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demoArchived member
i want to run just the engine wiring loom to the computer. and the alternator,starter motor off my orginal loom. the engine side is just all plugs and straight forward the computer side is also just plugs and straight forward. my questions are... off the engine wiring loom there are 2 plugs that plug into the vn body loom that gives power earth etc via relays etc in the vn body loom. just need to know in detail what colour wires go to were on the 2 plugs??? BIG GREY PLUG.............................................. ...................... the plugs are as follows looking to back of plug with clip on top startin from (1st row top left-bottom left)-(2nd row top-2nd row bottom)-(3rd row top 3rd row bottom)-(4th row top 4th row bottom) big grey plug is a 8 pin plug with 7 wires going into it 1st row top......... no wire 1st row bott ......... blue/white trace 2nd row top............ blue 2nd row bott............ green/black trace 3rd row top ................. green 3rd row bott ....................... green 4th row top ........................... brown 4th row bott.............................. brown .................................................. .................................... SMALLER BLACK PLUG is a 6 pin plug looking at back of plug from left to right with clip on top 1st row top ........ purple 1st row bott .............. red 2nd row top ................. orange 2nd row bott ....................... no wire 3rd row top............................. green/white trace 3rd row bott................................... red/black trace if some 1 can help asap would much appreciate it of of some 1 has done before help me out please thanks guys
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Psi_WagonArchived member
hi mate ive recently done this myself, but can only find some of the info for ya! on the Grey plug with 8 pins the wires are as follows; Blue/White - Fan control relay Blue - Oil Sender, for warning light Green - Water Temp Sender Brown - Brown at DFI module (brown directly next to Green wire) Brown - AC, connects to B8 on ECU Green/Black - Tacho feed one wire differs from what you have posted, and that is '2nd row bottom' on my loom it is White/Yellow and thats for AC Relay Control. it may just be that my loom was from a VP ? also these drawings are pretty crap, but if your ok with electrics you should be able to follow them. http://i733.photobucket.com/albums/w...rams_00011.jpg (http://i733.photobucket.com/albums/ww338/PsiWagon/808_wiring_diagrams_00011.jpg) http://i733.photobucket.com/albums/w...grams_0002.jpg (http://i733.photobucket.com/albums/ww338/PsiWagon/808_wiring_diagrams_0002.jpg) http://i733.photobucket.com/albums/w...rams_00031.jpg (http://i733.photobucket.com/albums/ww338/PsiWagon/808_wiring_diagrams_00031.jpg) If your a memeber of StreetCommodores, PM ProVK, he helped me out heaps with the ecu wiring. Hope that helps!! also from memory, the wires on the black plug are; Purple - Fuel Pump Relay Red - 12V+ Red/Black - 12V+ Green/White - Fuel pump control relay Orange - Ignition Relay but dont hold me to that :P
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demoArchived member
Quote: Originally Posted by Psi_Wagon hi mate ive recently done this myself, but can only find some of the info for ya! on the Grey plug with 8 pins the wires are as follows; Blue/White - Fan control relay Blue - Oil Sender, for warning light Green - Water Temp Sender Brown - Brown at DFI module (brown directly next to Green wire) Brown - AC, connects to B8 on ECU Green/Black - Tacho feed one wire differs from what you have posted, and that is '2nd row bottom' on my loom it is White/Yellow and thats for AC Relay Control. it may just be that my loom was from a VP ? also these drawings are pretty crap, but if your ok with electrics you should be able to follow them. http://i733.photobucket.com/albums/w...rams_00011.jpg (http://i733.photobucket.com/albums/ww338/PsiWagon/808_wiring_diagrams_00011.jpg) http://i733.photobucket.com/albums/w...grams_0002.jpg (http://i733.photobucket.com/albums/ww338/PsiWagon/808_wiring_diagrams_0002.jpg) http://i733.photobucket.com/albums/w...rams_00031.jpg (http://i733.photobucket.com/albums/ww338/PsiWagon/808_wiring_diagrams_00031.jpg) If your a memeber of StreetCommodores, PM ProVK, he helped me out heaps with the ecu wiring. Hope that helps!! also from memory, the wires on the black plug are; Purple - Fuel Pump Relay Red - 12V+ Red/Black - 12V+ Green/White - Fuel pump control relay Orange - Ignition Relay but dont hold me to that :P on the Grey plug with 8 pins the wires are as follows; Blue/White - Fan control relay..................run my own fan setup??? Blue - Oil Sender, for warning light...............autometer guage??? Green - Water Temp Sender........................autometer guage???? Brown - Brown at DFI module (brown directly next to Green wire)..........not sure??? Brown - AC, connects to B8 on ECU............not sure??? Green/Black - Tacho feed.............conect autometer or factory taco to this wire??? also from memory, the wires on the black plug are; Purple - Fuel Pump Relay...........already have a fuel pump relay all set up???? Red - 12V+.............................relay to this wire to power ecu??? Red/Black - 12V+.....................relay to this wire to power ecu??? Green/White - Fuel pump control relay..............already have pump wired up??? Orange - Ignition Relay....................another wire to relay or direct to ignition??? thanks so much for your help so far...top bloke not a member on that forum but might do so...if ya got contact number for him pm me if ok with him... check over my answers to ya post and tell me if its wrong or wont work and what to do????? also anything else im missing in order for it to be drivable??? just want to get my head around it before i wire it all up. thanks again mate i appreciate it.
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Psi_WagonArchived member
Quote: Originally Posted by demo on the Grey plug with 8 pins the wires are as follows; Blue/White - Fan control relay..................run my own fan setup??? eng fan relay, on drawing '3' Blue - Oil Sender, for warning light...............autometer guage??? no this is for the warning lamp, not oil pressure Green - Water Temp Sender........................autometer guage???? yep Brown - Brown at DFI module (brown directly next to Green wire)..........not sure??? i think i didnt end up suing this wire? Brown - AC, connects to B8 on ECU............not sure??? Green/Black - Tacho feed.............conect autometer or factory taco to this wire??? either or also from memory, the wires on the black plug are; Purple - Fuel Pump Relay...........already have a fuel pump relay all set up???? u will probably still need to run the trigger wire for the relay thru the ECU, pin A1 Red - 12V+.............................relay to this wire to power ecu??? Red/Black - 12V+.....................relay to this wire to power ecu??? Green/White - Fuel pump control relay..............already have pump wired up??? as above Orange - Ignition Relay....................another wire to relay or direct to ignition??? . i dont want to give u a bum steer with the black plug as i cant remember 100% im not running AirCon, so i just left all those wires. i dont have ProVK's number i only spoke on PM, but its worth signing upto SC, hes very helpfull!
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demoArchived member
Quote: Originally Posted by Psi_Wagon i dont want to give u a bum steer with the black plug as i cant remember 100% im not running AirCon, so i just left all those wires. i dont have ProVK's number i only spoke on PM, but its worth signing upto SC, hes very helpfull! so appart from warning lamp and tacho i dont need to worry bout grey plug??? and was i correct with black plug??? anything else i should worry about??? so instead of using ignition to trigger the relay for pump use the purple wire???is that what you mean? also the 1s you missed out answering on the black plug am i correct or you not sure??? also what triggers the injectors for a pulse???anything i have to do there or does dizzy give signal to computer to trigger injectors at correct time???
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ArronvlArchived member
how did you go with your wiring??
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ArronvlArchived member
i have 2 wires un accounted for.... please help Black plug, (looking at rear of plug) ,middle bottom-white? grey plug, (looking at rear of plug, very left top- Brown? connects to this do the v8s have a dfi module? what is it? Some original photos have not been recovered yet.
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dvsgmhArchived member
Thats For The Dizzy I Think?
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ArronvlArchived member
nope, sortedout dizzy wiring? also does anybody have a wiring diagram for the t700(4l60) dont worry about the dfi question, all sorted
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demoArchived member
i only wired 3 wires up and it started.(but ran ****)and fowled plugs. and only 2 were on the black plug. i couldnt get the original fuel pump earth that runs to comp to work so used my old seperate relay that was for the carby motor. at the moment im stuck on the engine light wire i cant find it. was told it was brown/white but didnt work any ideas??? and will any light work such as a test lamp etc or do you have to have a special light like in the original dash Arronvl you must be running a later model engine then a vn cause i only have 3 square plugs like above injectors coollent temp sensor alternator and i dont think its was any of them cause the wires are different colours
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ArronvlArchived member
the loom i took out of a hsv enhanced berlina. The engine was replaced through insurance, it ois a roller block. im thinking it may be the alternatoras thats the only accessory i didnt come accross. in regards to the check engine light it comes out pin A5 on the ecu plug, i found some wire colors vary also Can i use a 6cyl calais dash in mine now that is a v8?
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demoArchived member
im using a turbo400 and to get my dash to work i had to get a different speedo cable. i used my original wires for volts,watertemp,taco, but using a autometer guage for oil,water,fuel all the reds work as normal appart from engine light that i want to hook up.(somwhere)
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ArronvlArchived member
Im using a t700 in mine so i should be able to completely unwire the nauterally aspirated auto computer which is standard in the vl right??
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demoArchived member
Quote: Originally Posted by Arronvl Im using a t700 in mine so i should be able to completely unwire the nauterally aspirated auto computer which is standard in the vl right?? mine was a factory v8 so no stock trans comp didnt think the vl 6 has a trans comp just something to go into overdrive and i dont think the vn had 1 either i thought the trans comps started with the vr or vs but could be wrong. i know something is needed to go into overdrive on the vn auto some people say you need the speed sensor and other people say you dont but not sure.
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ArronvlArchived member
the 6 had a fair bit of wiring for the auto(its all gone now), i think theres 3 wires which go into the t700, just need a diagram of them so i can make them up(for the lock up converter). i'll figure it out eventually. cheers for the info by the way
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NASTY1Archived member
[QUOTE=demo;2368494]i only wired 3 wires up and it started.(but ran ****)and fowled plugs. and only 2 were on the black plug. i couldnt get the original fuel pump earth that runs to comp to work so used my old seperate relay that was for the carby motor. at the moment im stuck on the engine light wire i cant find it. was told it was brown/white but didnt work any ideas??? and will any light work such as a test lamp etc or do you have to have a special light like in the original dash ive been workin on and off my vl for the past 2 days now with wiring it up and still no luck..... with the battery terminals and wiring etc did you just get rid of the vl setup and use a vn style loom for that? ive wired what i had to from engine loom to the efi relay,fuel pump relays witch is 4 wires now im stuck on the rest..... the purple wire that conects to starter motor goes to ignition yeah?do i just run a new wire to ignition or tap into else where?im just bit confused as i have followed the info i had found on here and there nothing its dead lol
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