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Compound turbo charging

Started by FORZA vbmenu_register("postmenu_2277624", true); · 7 Sept 2009 · 43 replies

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Post anything related to this topic in here Has anyone done this in Aus yet? anyone got any hard figures, dyno graphs, spool up time etc some pics and info for people that have nfi wat im on about "A compound turbocharger system for an engine/compressor unit is disclosed including a pair of conventional turbochargers including turbine components connected in series to convert exhaust gas energy from the engine cylinders into mechanical energy for driving a pair of impeller-type compressor components arranged to supply sufficient quantities of air to the intake manifold of the engine cylinders and to the intake manifold of the compressor cylinders. In one embodiment, the impeller-type compressor components are arranged in parallel. In a second embodiment, the impeller-type compressor components are arranged in series with the air supplied to the intake manifold of the engine cylinders being provided by the first compressor component. Smooth operation of the engine/compressor unit including substantial self-proportioning of the air boost to both the engine cylinders and compressor cylinders is assured by means of a compressor cylinder control means and engine throttle means for adjusting total compressed air output and engine rpm to the compressed air being utilized by enabling or disabling compressor cylinders one at a time in succession and by correspondingly adjusting the fuel flow to the engine cylinders. A compound turbocharger system is also disclosed for supplying compressed air to an air pressure operated conveyor."
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Suitable for attaing high pressures, which are absolutley useless on a Gas(Petrol) engine. That setup you posted is for a performance diesel engine. Diesel engines actually run via detonation, so you cant actualy destroy them like a gas engine.
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not true ^ boost logic has been doing alot of developement on this lately, look on youtube
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yer it originated from diesel engines but like R34NRG said there has been alot of r&d regarding this and the yanks actually have an off the shelf kit for 2jz's i beleive costs $6900us so its in no way cheap but they are reported to have 20psi@2800rpm and by then the bigger huffer kicks in and keeps hauling all the way to redline Some original photos have not been recovered yet.
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Heres a local one using an RB30ET, and Agent86 yeah this ones running diesel, and loves detonating lol.
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lol that setup is ghetto as
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i dont see how it would work to any high gains, surely the larger turbo well and truely overspins the small turbo?
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ghetto ftw
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yeah but its getting the big one up at early rpm is the issue and thats where these spagetti setups help but for everyone else there is 2step/anti lag
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U couldnt fit anything thats gonna work better than a properly selected single turbo under your hood anyway. A lot of the tractor pull guys use a compound turbocharger setup.
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the 2jz boys seem to do alright from it http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WQu_F... 10D42&index=0 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WQu_F5NfVaM&feature=PlayList&p=714C737288710D42&index=0) anyone thats interested watch the first 6 videos of this playlist
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wow, turbocharging a turbocharger, wtf. It seems abit unrealistic to be pushing hot air into a allready hot turbo charger. Fair enough for diesel applications but for a petrol engine your probably better off having a larger turbo with a good intercooler setup anyway.
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after the hot air goes from the larger turbo through the smaller turbo it travels through an intercooler
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ah ha. Still I like to see a drag between a compound turbo charger setup and a large single turbo charger setup.
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i think its more so how the power is delivered u might have a single turbo gt42 vs a compound turbo setup with a gt35 and gt42 (which is similar to wat that marc guy is running in the vids) and where the 42 might see nothing until fullboost at 5k then its all over the road the compound setup will be around 4ish and deliver a smooth powerband id love to give one of these setups a go through an auto
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Your right, a compound turbo charger setup would have a much wider band(boost) than a single turbo charger setup.
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Quote: Originally Posted by Agent86 Suitable for attaing high pressures, which are absolutley useless on a Gas(Petrol) engine. That setup you posted is for a performance diesel engine. Diesel engines actually run via detonation, so you cant actualy destroy them like a gas engine. High pressure uselss on a petrol motor? The piston don't get moving by themselves. The quickest cars run huge boost, and not just for the conversation factor. You can destroy a diesel motor. They're not invincible.
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Quote: Originally Posted by HTURBO ah ha. Still I like to see a drag between a compound turbo charger setup and a large single turbo charger setup. cant see there being much of a difference
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Me too, I'd like to see some evidence(video footage) of a drag between a single turbo charger setup and a compound turbo charger setup, or some figures using the same turbo charger. (ie one GT42 agaist a gt35 & gt42).
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CAT uses this on their C15 truck engines with good results.. but yeh... diesel
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