well fellas i have done a search and there really isn't much out there.
i have just bought some ve 16" ceptors and am looking to have them drilled to fit earlier models. so i rang the local TTF (one of the biggest wheel and tyre suppliers here in vic) and asked them about getting this done. they said they machine alloys but not steelies.
so i did a bit more of a ring around and found another guy but he wants 35$ to drill them + $15 fittting and balancing the tyres... thats $50 per rim...
so i suppose what we want here is what do you have?
who machined them?
how much did it cost?
have you had any troubles with them being machined? (weakened in any way)
and ofcourse any other questions that you may have. hopefully this thread will bring some info together and stop threads popping up every now and then that say "where can i get them machined?"
ajax no i was hoping i could go somewhere closer. i have a guy calling me back anyway so i will see what happens there.
example of unhelpful ve thread
"where to get ve 16"s drilled" (http://www.calaisturbo.com.au/showthread.php?t=160657)
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Originally Posted by SIroller
i have just bought some ve 16" ceptors and am looking to have them drilled to fit earlier models. so i rang the local TTF (one of the biggest wheel and tyre suppliers here in vic) and asked them about getting this done. they said they machine alloys but not steelies.
i thought that the difference between ceptors and steelies was that they were alloy?
any metal engineering shop should be able to do it.
there was a thread somewhere about people having problems with the ve ceptors cracking, so be careful you dont have a set of the defected ones mitch.
I got this done by a mate who owns an engineering shop but its not something that he will do all the time (as he mainly works on bigger stuff)
but i rang a few companies as well to ask how the do it and they all said with a dye grinder... so maybe just do it yourself with a dye grinder and a vernier?
thanks vince / vl exec. this is all valuable stuff and i think its good to bring it all together in one thread.
aus880 aka russ brang up the defect question and this was discussed extensively (will find link later).
vince - from what i can gather the difference is that the steel will have less strength once machined and hence many engineers won't drill the steelies due to the fact they might be held liable for any failure of the rim. the question this raises is;
"is drilling the steelie an unroadworthy issue?"
anyway i am hesitant to just get some idiot with a grinder to do my wheels as i plan to drive on them!
oh and remember this isn't just a thread for me this is for anyone who might be pondering the same questions now or later on.
cheers alex. alright well the verdict is in beaurepairs will not drill steelies! this is because as i guessed there is less meat on them and it is a safety issue
ajax wheels just near moorabbin amf (nepean hwy) will drill them.
they quoted me $18 a rim for the machining. note that this price is for a rim minus the tyre, they charge an additional $20 to remove fit and balance the tyre which is a tad bit more than the normal $10-15.
other places have quoted $40-50 which includes the tyre removal.
anyway hope this helps people.
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Originally Posted by theVLguy
buy VZ crewman 16" steelies.
problem solved, unless they dont sell them anymore.
i rang FTG holden spare parts they quoted me $196 per rim for a vz 16".
i suggest that i'd rather spend less than i would on 1 vz wheel on 4 x ve wheels including machining.
I had VE SSV's on my vlt back in 2006, pretty sure i was the first person to put ve wheels on a car other than a ve (had the rims on the VL before VE was released )
I had them on the car for over 1yr and never had a drama
Best place in Melb do get wheel machining done is AJAX in Moorabbin, They've been in the industry for over 30yrs and do heaps of work for major auto brands ie: Ford, Toyota, Holden etc
Ajax Motor Wheels Pty Ltd
Cnr Exley Drv & Ewar St Moorabbin VIC
ph: (03) 9555 7737
Most important thing when using VE rims on a holden other than VE is to use vz wheel nuts (Click here (http://wheelking.com.au/Announcements/tabid/204/ctl/ViewItem/mid/662/ItemId/17/Default.aspx) for good explanation and pics on wheelking.com)
Also, its critical that when the centre bore is machined, it is central! if its out by 1-2mm you might as well throw the wheel in the bin. If its machined off centre, vibrations will be present when driving and over time studs may snap due to the extra load
Personally, i wouldn't get VE interceptors machined to suit VB-VZ, There not as strong as an alloy 18"/19" rim, If you want interceptors go for some 15x7's, look much better than ve 16" interceptors
Some original photos have not been recovered yet.
All good points
when making your decision always consider the fact that the cracking of VE police rims is apparently an ongoing issue and that's of course when fitted on VE Commodores.
I'd imagine as Mitch says that then drilling out the centre to adapt them to VL's may further weaken them leading to perhaps more chance of cracking issues
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Originally Posted by RJB-223
Also, its critical that when the centre bore is machined, it is central! if its out by 1-2mm you might as well throw the wheel in the bin. If its machined off centre, vibrations will be present when driving and over time studs may snap due to the extra load
great point and worth quoteing / repeating. this is why you should not dremel these rims out.
sorry to bump an old thread but what is the EXACT amount that needs to be machined is it 1.3mm ??
got a mate about to get some SS wheels machined to go on a monaro
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Originally Posted by rexiin
sorry to bump an old thread but what is the EXACT amount that needs to be machined is it 1.3mm ??
got a mate about to get some SS wheels machined to go on a monaro
tbh who knows. from experience its best to just get ajax to drill them out. any other tyre joint charges through the roof and some of the ttf's and some prettyy lowbrow places actually do them with a grinder which potentially places excess weight on the studs.
reconsidering a set of 16x7"s for my daily. something that hasn't been raised is that with warping / cracking, lowered suspension puts more strain on the chassis / rim / tyre etc (everything but the shock and coil unless you have a very good setup) therefore possibly placing more strain on the rim again.
i hear that the early rims had issues and they are using a different supplier now? if so how do you tell the difference between early and late wheels?
http://www.calaisturbo.com.au/showthread.php?t=200764
what tyre size to run in this thread link.
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the VE tyres are too high a profile. get lower profile tyres e.g. 225 55. (or 205 60) the 225 60 is too bog a tyre and will also be throwing out your speedo.
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225 50 - you will be 2.5% too fast (speedo says 60 when you are doing 58.5km/h)
225 55 - you will be 1% too slow (speedo says 60 when you are doing 60.6)
225 60 - you will be 4.5% too slow (speedo says 60 when you are doing 62.7km)
there ya go. just search tyre calculator on google and jot in some sizes. i used the starting point of 205 65 15 as the standard wheel size. you get 3km leeway on speeding tickets but running on VE 16" tyres will be pushing it. even a dot over 60 on your speedo and you are probably beyond the speeding ticket point.
tyre size calculator - http://www.miata.net/garage/tirecalc.html
btw I'm not running them on the VL but I'm running a set of ve stockies on my vy. been through an entire set of tyres (100% normal wear) and no issues at all. slight vibration in front but that has only been apparent since i did new pads and i'm 90% sure its just my discs. (160,000km standard discs from the production line :/)
