Hi guys, Thought id throw up some pics of my Latest. Its an early 1987 Royale, Carbine Metallic over MX Grey, Being an early car it misses out on the Sheild badges for the front guards, and has the Berlina Pinstripe. its done 190,000km and is 100% standard. Picked it up in pretty good nick, Only a small coolant leak and minor cosmetic stuff. Since i have bought it I have replaced; Cambelt + Tensioner, Water Pump, Thermostat, Coolant Outlets, Belts, and replaced the earlier type P/S Pump and lines, and Alternator with the more common later types. I am in the process of Painting the plastics a bright metallic silver (similar to Asteroid, but a bit less boring) so it looks a bit second-hand at the moment. Some original photos have not been recovered yet.

Looks good - What's the plans for her ? Be good with a snail tucked down in there Some original photos have not been recovered yet.

It will be taking the place of the Mighty 2 Litre, no need for 3 VL's. Plans are just a general tidy up, 2 Tone paint, New Tyres, Calais Side Skirts, CD Player, and a Calais Front.

man ive never heard of a royale befor

They were a NZ only model. Due to high import taxes during the 1980's cars were assembled locally, using local components wherever possible. Holden NZ always assembled the middle of the road model, in the VL's case that was the Berlina. SL and Calais could be ordered, but were imported so they cost a lot more. The Royale was a way to sell some better equipped cars to a different part of the market, without having to pay Import Tax. Royales missed out on Rear disc brakes, Side Skirts and the Calais front, but had A/C, electric windows/mirrors, Cruise Control etc.

Quote: Originally Posted by boosted_wagon man ive never heard of a royale befor LOL every time.....go on post a VL GTS someone and we will get the same comment lol

haha i never new oz never has gts and royale

go the ROYALE still with factory head unit nice find man

Is it the original color? Australia did not get that shade, looks good in dark grey.

yeah original paint Carbine Metallic think it was a dulon color? calais3L will confirm

Yes, The NZ plant used the Dulux Dulon Paint system, due to it being a local product.

I think we should all ignore the 'What is a Royale/GTS?' questions..

How gutless is the RB20e or isn't it THAT bad?

Quote: Originally Posted by Weezy How gutless is the RB20e or isn't it THAT bad? I like to think that it's worse than that bad Still happy to have had it for a first car though. Some original photos have not been recovered yet.

Quote: Originally Posted by Weezy How gutless is the RB20e or isn't it THAT bad? the 2l version got the 4.11-1 diff so it helped a bit, in all honesty they are only a little slower than a 3l, they rev a lot higher also and are 10-1 compression ratio. 2l has 95 kw and 3l has 114 kw so not a massive difference really

^^^ dissagree lol a friend of mine had a 2 litre manual vacationer...I had the 3 litre manual.....KILLED IT....and after driving one i wasnt impressed at all...they are CRAP

The Royale is An RB30. I have a 2L Berlina, Ive done about 40,000km in it without a problem. The difference is in the torque output, they are much slower than a 3L, But they arent too bad as long as your not trying to set any records, or pull a loaded trailer up a steep hill. The performance is on par with a stock Trimatic 3.3 VK. Top speed is about 160 (5500rpm in drive), it doesnt have enough power to pull top gear.

Quote: Originally Posted by NZ_BT1 ^^^ dissagree lol a friend of mine had a 2 litre manual vacationer...I had the 3 litre manual.....KILLED IT....and after driving one i wasnt impressed at all...they are CRAP yea i mean all are different, some will kill others and some wont but on average if you had a 2l and a 3l in a race situation the 3l would pull away but not by much, my under cover brother from another mother had a 2l manual and it kept up exactly the same as my calais auto na. just as an example. i dont like to admit it but it unfortunatly its true hahaha. im not trying to make the 2l sound any better. quite frankly, it should have been only a auzzy option along with the 1.9, sorry 2l owners. yes id put them with the 1.9s

I wouldnt lump the 2.0 with the 1.9's. thats being unfair on the RB20. Id still have the RB20 over the 3.3.

Quote: Originally Posted by convert yea i mean all are different, some will kill others and some wont but on average if you had a 2l and a 3l in a race situation the 3l would pull away but not by much, my under cover brother from another mother had a 2l manual and it kept up exactly the same as my calais auto na. just as an example. i dont like to admit it but it unfortunatly its true hahaha. im not trying to make the 2l sound any better. quite frankly, it should have been only a auzzy option along with the 1.9, sorry 2l owners. yes id put them with the 1.9s You didnt have adam in the car with you did you thatd soak some power hheeehheee?????? or was he the undercover brother from another mother??? I put them in the 4 cylinder VN catigory!!!!!! yes thats Right!!!! Some original photos have not been recovered yet.