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Just tryna get my engine together but cant remember how to get Tdc on the bottom end i know its got something to do with the mark on the cam cover and the 7 marks on the halmonic balancer but which mark?
if someone could shedsome light would be helpful
thanx in advanced
jo,
Depends what your wanting bdc for ... if your setting up a cam or similar DONT rely on the balancer ! to it properly.
TheVL guy ... thats sig is bloody funny as !! haha
im setting up bcoz just put a new cam in there, cam is all set just gotta figure out the bottom end.. far left?
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if your doing that then do it right. balancer can be degrees off, ESPECIALLY if its the old balancer and its spun on the rubber. Im lost ... how can your cam be set if you dont have the cam / bottom end set up ?
if youve got the head off its simple, just turn the engine over by hand until cylinder # 1 (closest to radiator) is at the very top of its stroke. When the head is on there i stick a screwdriver in the spark plug hole and wait till it gets to its highest point as you turn the engine
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Originally Posted by PSIWOG
if your doing that then do it right. balancer can be degrees off, ESPECIALLY if its the old balancer and its spun on the rubber. Im lost ... how can your cam be set if you dont have the cam / bottom end set up ?
isnt the dot on the front of the cam meant to be facing up? thats wot i meant
whats the proper way of doing it?
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Originally Posted by Spool-Up
if youve got the head off its simple, just turn the engine over by hand until cylinder # 1 (closest to radiator) is at the very top of its stroke. When the head is on there i stick a screwdriver in the spark plug hole and wait till it gets to its highest point as you turn the engine
thats what i was thinking but thats not the whole procedure ye?
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Originally Posted by vl5speed
isnt the dot on the front of the cam meant to be facing up? thats wot i meant
whats the proper way of doing it?
thats what i was thinking but thats not the whole procedure ye?
Your not giving enough info man. Is it an adjustable cam gear ? is the engine assembled ? is the head on the block .....
Some original photos have not been recovered yet.
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Originally Posted by PSIWOG
Your not giving enough info man. Is it an adjustable cam gear ? is the engine assembled ? is the head on the block .....
lol i reckon.
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Originally Posted by vl5speed
im setting up bcoz just put a new cam in there, cam is all set just gotta figure out the bottom end.. far left?
when cylinder 6 rockers are rocking is when your on TDC.its a way to double check.
Some original photos have not been recovered yet.
according to that thread ^^ its just a matter of linning up the balancer to the first mark and lining the cam gear straight up? I just put it to that first mark and piston 1 and 6 are both up..
thanx
Dude your not listening or reading ... balancers can move and are not 100% accurate. If your dialing a cam and relying on the balancer to give you the correct timing your going to end with an engine not set up correct. Ive said my part. do what u want now
Some original photos have not been recovered yet.
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Originally Posted by PSIWOG
Dude your not listening or reading ... balancers can move and are not 100% accurate. If your dialing a cam and relying on the balancer to give you the correct timing your going to end with an engine not set up correct. Ive said my part. do what u want now
thanks for your advice mate but no need for sarcasim, if any ones got a write up for the correct way of doing this with the head off would be much appreciated..
Some original photos have not been recovered yet.
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Originally Posted by vl5speed
according to that thread ^^ its just a matter of linning up the balancer to the first mark and lining the cam gear straight up? I just put it to that first mark and piston 1 and 6 are both up..
thanx
For what??!
Your original question asked how to get the the bottom end to TDC ( piston # 1)
I told you how...just turn it over until the piston is at the top. So why the hell are you talking about the cam gear when the head isnt even on the engine??
If your trying to work out how to set the cam timing (even though youve said the cam is set already) once your head goes back on then thats a whole different procedure, listen to psiwog he knows his ****.
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Originally Posted by vl5speed
thanks for your advice mate but no need for sarcasim, if any ones got a write up for the correct way of doing this with the head off would be much appreciated..
What sarcasm? Youve been told a few times now on how to do it!!
If you dont have the balancer on the easiest and simplest way is to align the mark on the front of the lower timing gear to the marlk on the oil pump housing. Then set the cam mark to top, fit the belt with a count of 53 teeth between marks from the LHS from top to bottom. Then tighten the tensioner.
Very simple!
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Originally Posted by YEP_boost
If you dont have the balancer on the easiest and simplest way is to align the mark on the front of the lower timing gear to the marlk on the oil pump housing. Then set the cam mark to top, fit the belt with a count of 53 teeth between marks from the LHS from top to bottom. Then tighten the tensioner.
Very simple!
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Oh I wasnt being scarcastic you just keep changing what you were asking so it made it hard.
Good luck with it.
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Originally Posted by YEP_boost
If you dont have the balancer on the easiest and simplest way is to align the mark on the front of the lower timing gear to the marlk on the oil pump housing. Then set the cam mark to top, fit the belt with a count of 53 teeth between marks from the LHS from top to bottom. Then tighten the tensioner.
Very simple!
Seeing as he has the head off id say the simplest way is to look at it lol...then put the head on and set the cam mark to top as Yep-boost said above.
