hey just wondering if you can put a 253 or 308 old red motor in an auto vl? just the standard auto, non turbo. thanks

Short answer is ('no' edit not very good english) The motor has to appeal to that dates emmision requirements, which is basically the black motor only because it was the last carby fed one & has crap you are 'supposed' to bolt on to keep it appealing to the environment. If you had a stonkers red motor block I dont no if the transport department would no the difference etc, just looking at it anyway. But depends how good there numbering systems are they can look up prevous engine numbers to rev check it when registering and if they come up with the build date of 73' theres a possibility they will screw you over.

No, you can't. You are not allowed to put a motor in a car that is older than the car you intend on putting it in.

yeah, but i dont htink it stops alot of people doing that, I knwo with fords, in my xd falcon (1980) i had a motor from a 1972 vehicle, they didnt care im sure holdens would be the same, its not like putting a carby 253 in a vr or something... your not allowed to, but alot of people do it

People put RB30 bottom ends in Skylines all the time. What happens if you put the EFI 5.0L in and then convert it to carb? Your achieving the same thing with a better, newer motor and it sounds a bit more legal Some original photos have not been recovered yet.

Yea thats a pretty common one magnumn, they get an edelbrock manifold that fits straight on and then get the better flowing heads vn etc. Plus the added harmonics. I had an red motor in a vc once that didnt cause me any problems, it was too ****hot to sell. I think they expect the roadworthy people to distinguish this.

Quote: Originally Posted by 5spdvl No, you can't. You are not allowed to put a motor in a car that is older than the car you intend on putting it in. wrong, you are allowed to do it, but it needs to meet certain requirements and be engineered

The basic idea is that you need to comply with the newest emissions requirements out of those applicable to either the vehicle or the replacement engine. The idea of putting a later model engine in is fine because that will always have the more stringent requirement. But you will need to keep any emissions equipment that is part of that engine (eg charcoal canister, ecu etc). Remember also that the regs aren't neccesarily model specific, so for example vehicles from 1985-1990 might have all been built to the same requirements and therefore in this case you can put a 1985 motor in a 1990 car no worries. Putting an older engine in is problematic because you need to comply with the emissions regs of the car, something which the engine was never designed to do. And you are opening up a can of worms about how you prove this compliance. Not many people bother because of (a) the effort and (b) a late model engine is usually a better choice anyway. Engine modifications follow the same idea. You need to maintain compliance with the engines emissions regs. I wouldn't think you can get around something like this by fitting a carb to a late model block because the ecu and injection system would be considered part of the emissions system.

The simple answer is Yes you can put a red 308 into a VL legally. You must still comply with all of the VL emission controls. Dont believe me? Check the vicroads modification guide. You can even put in an engine that wasnt available from the manufacturer providing youre not changing the amount of cylinders if; Its similar in size, weight, emissions and power WITHOUT requiring an engineers certificate. It used to be the case that an older engine couldnt go into a newer car but things seem to have changed. If you dont agree, dont argue with me, prove me wrong with information from the vicroads website. Some original photos have not been recovered yet.

Sh*t, there you have it.