just wondering whats the ups and downs on the say v2 supercharger kits for the 5L v8 and the yella terra kit the one that sits straight on the top where the manifold sits??? and you can buy bigger pulleys for more boost hey? and if so say if you had a full rebuilt 5L and suited for the blower and you get a bigger pulley would the supercharger handle the more boost??? thanks for any replies Some original photos have not been recovered yet.

Procharger FTW... everything else = rubbish Seriously out of the 2 blowers there you've mentioned... Go the Vortech V2..(Im no vortech fan either) those yella terra superchargers are somewhat dissapointing... really... those type of blowers have real heat soak issues... even when intercooled...also have belt issues (they throw belts) they sound like sh*t IMO too. Some original photos have not been recovered yet.

GM 6/71 ftw...

if youre going to supercharge, go a roots blower. and if youve got money, go the whipple supercharger. a centrifugal charger blower like a vortech is going to give a good power output, but they also give rather disappointing 1/4 mile times for the amount of power they produce. if you want the high end power those blowers provide, you would just go for a turbo instead. a roots blower is going to give a lot more low down torque, and get you off the line a lot faster, if you can control the wheelspin that is. yes the yella terra chargers will be disappointing. if its the same kit that uses the m90, off the l67 v6 engine, then the blower is too small for a 5 litre engine, so its just going to produce mostly heat for a little power gain. i think i saw one of these pull 215rwkw on a 5 litre. once again, if you have the money, go for a whipple supercharger. theyre a much better take on the roots design blower, and theyve been putting out over 300rwkw on v6's, so id imagine even more on the 5 litre. also, is this for an EFI 5L, or carby?

The centrifugal blowers available these days are plenty for a street car.. to say they offer dissapointing 1/4 mile times is not exactly an accurate statement for 'all' centrifugal S/C's... For combinations using Vortech S/C's I totally hear you they tend to make good dyno HP yet that HP doesn't equate to track times? I've seen it many times... The Procharger doesn't fail in that dept... there is some really fast cars running Prochargers now...

Quote: Originally Posted by EAT-30T The centrifugal blowers available these days are plenty for a street car.. to say they offer dissapointing 1/4 mile times is not exactly an accurate statement for 'all' centrifugal S/C's... For combinations using Vortech S/C's I totally hear you they tend to make good dyno HP yet that HP doesn't equate to track times? I've seen it many times... The Procharger doesn't fail in that dept... there is some really fast cars running Prochargers now... i havent read too much into prochargers, so i cant comment on those. my experiences are from reading about people with raptor superchargers that seem to pay 7k for a kit and gain maybe a second off their 1/4 mile time. vortechs i do hear good things about sometimes though, but still high power outputs at times

Roots vs. Centrifugal vs. Screw Type Supercharging The most effective performance enhancement that you will ever do to your car or truck is definitely a supercharger. That is why it is very important that you choose the right type of supercharger to get the right kind of power for the type of conditions that you will put your vehicle through. This is a guide to help understand it's not just about forcing more air down the throat of your motor. There are different ways to get the air to the motor and these different ways create different type of power curves. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Centrifugal Type Supercharging Centrifugal Supercharging compresses the air inside the case of the supercharger using an impeller. Then, discharges the air out of a scroll to the motor. This design is similar to turbo-charging except for centrifugal superchargers don't use the exhaust to build pressure, they use a belt, driven by the crank pulley to spin the impeller. Centrifugal supercharging is definitely one of the more user-friendly ways to supercharge your motor. The ability to change the impeller sizes and to spin the impeller at different speeds creates a more inexpensive way to have flexibility in your power curve. Centrifugal superchargers have become the standard for street use and light-duty racing and far outsell all other types of superchargers. Recommended Usage: Street Use - Commercial Use - Road Racing - Drag Racing Positive Points: 1) Lots of Flexibility for Power Adjustments 2) Lower Discharge Temperatures 3) Great Reliability 4) Easy to install Negative Points: 1) Not as much power at low RPMs as Roots or Screw type superchargers Manufacturer Availability: Paxton - Powerdyne - ProCharger - Vortech Vortech's Centrifugal Type Supercharger Roots Type Supercharging The Roots Type Supercharger is the first style supercharger that was ever used and can be dated back to the 1880s when the Roots brothers designed it as an air conveyor for mine shafts. Roots blowers act like air pumps (not compressors), and In general, Roots blowers have a two or three lobe rotor design, depending on the size of the case. Roots blowers will give you positive pressure to your motor from just a crack of the throttle, and will give all that they have to offer at full throttle no matter what the rpm of the motor. Roots Type Superchargers may look awesome hanging out of the hood and are great for those looking for drastic power increases at lower RPMs. Roots blowers are also extremely reliable and require very little maintenance, which is why Ford, GM, Mercedes, Jaguar, and Austin Martin have all featured Roots blowers as original equipment on select high performance vehicles. Recommended Usage: Street Use - Towing - Extreme Drag Racing - Show Vehicles Positive Points: 1) Boost throughout the entire RPM range, right off of idle 2) Highest Potential for Gain (A must-have for all-out drag racing) 3) Excellent Reliability 4) Great Appearance & Stature (Most common supercharger type for show vehicles) Negative Points: 1) Sometimes Violent Throttle Response 2) Lower boost ratings at higher RPMs 3) Higher Than Normal Discharge Temperatures 4) Lengthy installation times Manufacturer Availability: Allen Engine Development - BDS - Magna Charger - B&M- Holley - Littlefield - Mooneyham - Weiand Screw Type Supercharging Screw type superchargers are derived from the Roots type concept but with vast improvements for street use. Although from the out side, screw type superchargers may look a lot like Roots type superchargers, on the inside you will find a twin-screw design that compresses air unlike Roots type superchargers which pump the air into the motor. Screw type superchargers have an axial-flow design that compresses the air as it moves between the screws to create positive pressure without creating the heat that Roots type superchargers can create. The Screw type supercharger's ability to produce a dramatic increase of power from idle and through out the rest of the power curve make them a great choice for heavy vehicles, towing or commercial use. Recommended Usage: Street Use - Towing - Road Racing - Drag Racing Positive Points: 1) Great Power at Low RPMs (Great for Towing) 3) Factory Fit & Appearance 4) Great Reliability Negative Points: 1) The Power Doesn't Keep Climbing in the High RPMs (Power curve is very flat) 2) Challenging To Achieve High Boost Levels or CFMs 3) Lengthy installation times Manufacturer Availability: Kenne Belle - Whipple Whipple's Screw Type Supercharger Some original photos have not been recovered yet.

Quote: Originally Posted by stocky21 if youre going to supercharge, go a roots blower. and if youve got money, go the whipple supercharger. a centrifugal charger blower like a vortech is going to give a good power output, but they also give rather disappointing 1/4 mile times for the amount of power they produce. if you want the high end power those blowers provide, you would just go for a turbo instead. a roots blower is going to give a lot more low down torque, and get you off the line a lot faster, if you can control the wheelspin that is. yes the yella terra chargers will be disappointing. if its the same kit that uses the m90, off the l67 v6 engine, then the blower is too small for a 5 litre engine, so its just going to produce mostly heat for a little power gain. i think i saw one of these pull 215rwkw on a 5 litre. once again, if you have the money, go for a whipple supercharger. theyre a much better take on the roots design blower, and theyve been putting out over 300rwkw on v6's, so id imagine even more on the 5 litre. also, is this for an EFI 5L, or carby? mad replies fella's thanks well that something im tryin to decide efi or carby i would really mh rather stick with efi for sure but yeah as of the supercharger goes there is a few out there hey and about the yella terra charger yeah stuff that idea i thought they woulda been good im glad you's wrote that i wouldnt have known other wise hey the whipple charger how much do they go for do you know???

great report Duke57TT

I'm also looking into buying a supercharger kit, Preferably 2nd hand because i don't have too much cash. But I have found a vortech v1 kit for $3,900. Does anyone no much about these blowers?

duke57tt dude that was the best write up eva lol nah thanks heaps man helped out so much i wanna whipple supercharger now lol

you guys cant recognize a copy/paste when you see one? http://www.superchargersonline.com/content.asp?id=5 but yeah, good info. ^^ + 1 vote for the whipple charger. im sure youd love it

Quote: Originally Posted by stocky21 you guys cant recognize a copy/paste when you see one? http://www.superchargersonline.com/content.asp?id=5 but yeah, good info. ^^ + 1 vote for the whipple charger. im sure youd love it It�s much easier than typing it out. The 30mins I would take to type it, re read it then edit it so it made sense and be easy to understand is a bit of waste. Google is just a mere click away with the right information when you know what you�re looking for. This way it�s just the facts, not opinions and the bloke can make up his own mind. I could just ramble on, and end up with an incoherent sentence that you have to read three times to get the information out of. As you can see so far � each blower has been said it�s the best in this thread. That�s great info to go off, when some will have never seen a blower in there lives, some will have read about it and others will have done it. Provide the facts and let him make his own decision.

Quote: Originally Posted by Duke57TT It’s much easier than typing it out. The 30mins I would take to type it, re read it then edit it so it made sense and be easy to understand is a bit of waste. Google is just a mere click away with the right information when you know what you’re looking for. This way it’s just the facts, not opinions and the bloke can make up his own mind. I could just ramble on, and end up with an incoherent sentence that you have to read three times to get the information out of. As you can see so far – each blower has been said it’s the best in this thread. That’s great info to go off, when some will have never seen a blower in there lives, some will have read about it and others will have done it. Provide the facts and let him make his own decision. well said Some original photos have not been recovered yet.

Quote: Originally Posted by stocky21 i havent read too much into prochargers, so i cant comment on those. my experiences are from reading about people with raptor superchargers that seem to pay 7k for a kit and gain maybe a second off their 1/4 mile time. vortechs i do hear good things about sometimes though, but still high power outputs at times Less reading, more doing Quote: Originally Posted by calaisv8 just wondering whats the ups and downs on the say v2 supercharger kits for the 5L v8 and the yella terra kit the one that sits straight on the top where the manifold sits??? and you can buy bigger pulleys for more boost hey? and if so say if you had a full rebuilt 5L and suited for the blower and you get a bigger pulley would the supercharger handle the more boost??? thanks for any replies My only experience is with a powerdyne running 6psi on a stock 304 EFI manual, it made 250wrkw. Cheap and easy to install... good bang for your bucks Some original photos have not been recovered yet.

Quote: Originally Posted by NZ EVLHSV Less reading, more doing My only experience is with a powerdyne running 6psi on a stock 304 EFI manual, it made 250wrkw. Cheap and easy to install... good bang for your bucks yeah that sounds good when you got the kit did it come with like injectors and a chip? and was it a standard fuel system? i threw my fuel tank to the tip yesterday lol gonna put a fuel cell in just thinkin if i would need a swirl pipe as some mates have said but i mean its gonna be stock to start of with then do the work to it when i save the money anyone know if a fuel cell makes any difference for anything lol i cant see how it would just look good and easy to get to???

I had a custom bracket made, 42lb injectors, fuel reg, big external pump as well as the stock internal pump, then a dyno tune I already had extractors, single 3" exhaust and a 71mm throttle body

+1 for the powerdyne! they're a great little unit!

What would it be worth to put together a pro charger set up on a 5 litre Kurt ? Or are they too hardcore for a street set up ?

The vortech's are a great blower, as for the people saying they don't convert into good 1/4 mile times, thats a load of ****, the reason is all the cars they are on, majority are not set up correctly, hence the poor times. The V2-S trim is probably the most popular blower, but they do suffer from belt slipping issues, using a crank brace can rectify this, also using an oversized crank pulley so there is more contact area can eliminate slippage. The other alternative is upgrading to a T-trim unit which uses heavier duty bearings capable of supporting the load of a gilmer style pulley system. A V4 or V7 can make 700rwhp with the right setup, something I don't see a procharger do? The powerdyne are ok but have their limits, the internal belt system tends to fail regularly at high RPM. Have you considered turbocharging? If you are mechanically minded, the cost will work out the same either way you go.