Hi guys. i enquired with an engineer today about doing an engine swap. im interested to hear how some guys here got past ADR with putting 2jz's/GTR's/3rd party engines into the VL. what rules did you have to adhear too? the response i got was... 1) if the car has airbags then an engine swap is a big no no (the ecu does not run the airbags/ABS) 2) the engine wight must be close (didnt tell me how close, and i dont think he was aware of the differences in the engines, we are looking at a 300lb difference) 3) brakes and suspension must comply with 2007 specs (even if the car is a 1995-ish, and the engine is a 1999-ish). alot of it doesnt make sense, so im going to call and get a second opinion. would be interesting to hear what other guys here had to go through, what they know, and any tips along the way (maybe a phone number for an engineer in melb). Cheers guys - Loz

in regards to brakes and suspension i always thought (and have been told by the "Officials") that, in this case your VL, has to have the same brake and suspension setup as the donor car. So if your VL is N/A, and you where to put a turbo motor in i would say that u would need turbo brakes. 2jz's and RB26DETT's are old motors, i wouldnt have thought it would require u to have 2007 Spec brakes and suspension.....and i wouldve thought that all these similiar class engines and cars weigh the same....couldnt be too much difference between a Supra or a VL?? Is there??

TASHVL, long time no see its nothing to do with the VL, im looking at putting an LS1 into an e36 BMW. and what you said sound sound, the brakes should be even with the engine im putting in.

just to clarify, what are 2007 spec brakes and suspension? im pretty sure the likes of smart cars are probably still using drum rear brakes? some may use a single pistion all around, while other will have 6 pot calipers front/rear... same with suspension, soo manyto choose from... i always thought brakes, and suspension have to be the same spec as what came on the car u taking the motor out of

Quote: Originally Posted by .loz TASHVL, long time no see its nothing to do with the VL, im looking at putting an LS1 into an e36 BMW. and what you said sound sound, the brakes should be even with the engine im putting in. Yeah man ive been hiding.........lol **** YEAH, that sounds like an awsome conversion. Would be alot harder then say putting a 2jz in a VL tho seeing as there are a couple of places that can supply parts for the conversion making complying with ADR easier. U would have ALOT of custom work ahead of you, and being that sort of car im not sure on how ud go with brake and suspension upgrades, if needed.

yeah itll be a challange, but fun if we can get it ADR approved

depends on the engineer you speak to... when i was researching some stuff about my engine and mods (turbo on an engine that is older than the car) i found 99% of them are deadshits lol deadset most of them had no idea what they were talking about... according to whats written on the vicroads website what has been said above is correct. the engine must be in similar weight and must comply with ADRs of the vehicle the engine came from. things like brakes and suspension are case sensitive and whether they need upgrading or not is up to the actual engineer, its bit of common sense though really, obviously they wont be happy with puting a heavier more powerful engine into a 4cyl car without upgrading a few things, but yeh exactly what needs to be changed and how is something an engineer will have to tell you. its hard to get a strait answer bout engine conversions, but if u find an engineer who knows what theyre talking about, hang on to them oh and any engine change or major mod will mean itl need to have an EPA test done to make sure everything does comply, LPG gets you around this meaning no EPA test must be done! just bit of food for thought lol edit - after reading section 11 on the modification guide on the vicrods website, even if the engine is much larger in weight than what your replacing you can get this approved anyway. have a read here : http://www.vicroads.vic.gov.au/NR/rd...340/0/VSI8.pdf (http://www.vicroads.vic.gov.au/NR/rdonlyres/CC48FC10-4D57-4F04-82E1-3BD72EF88340/0/VSI8.pdf) Some original photos have not been recovered yet.

thanks for that, helps a little. but i just bought a 328i, so i don't think i will be doing the engine conversion any more. i might just go for atmo-king