Hey Everyone is it bad to run you car without a afm if you have a intercooler since it should be there or in your airbox sonce ive heard half say it is and half say its not since my mate hasnt got 1 and his vlt runs perfect so any help please Cheers

is he running stock ECU? the car doesnt run very well without an ECU if ur not running an AFM, try it for urself, pull the afm plug out and try to start, idle and rev the car

Quote: Originally Posted by IMFSTR Hey Everyone is it bad to run you car without a afm if you have a intercooler since it should be there or in your airbox sonce ive heard half say it is and half say its not since my mate hasnt got 1 and his vlt runs perfect so any help please Cheers Normally when you get a cooler its either in the pipes or it will be still to your stock front induction pipe..

im guessing your mate has an aftermarket ecu, your car will not run well without an afm you can also put your afm into your intercoooler piping if you want to tidy up the intake area

ill ask him caz when i get my vlt, im thinkign of running it without one and wasnt sure if it would run ok or not run well

pull ur afm plug off and see how it goes lol thatll show u Some original photos have not been recovered yet.

the wonders of limp mode,

The car will start fine and idle fine (mine did) but you can't rev past 2000rpm.

mine idles crap with the afm unplugged, revs alright, then breaks down at prob about 2000rpm mine does have a cam though, maybe thats why meh

yes cars with cams are amazing things On mine too it will start fine (and idleok) even though my cam has the usual turbo setting with some overlap. Its quite entertaining for the kids to rev it up when there is no AFMand have it go gah gah ! Some original photos have not been recovered yet.

i guess u need it anyway to drive the car but wont changing it position affect the performance or not really

Quote: Originally Posted by IMFSTR i guess u need it anyway to drive the car but wont changing it position affect the performance or not really If you are talking AFM then best keep it cool and vibration free, so dont mount it on engine as it causes the wires to fatigue and fail

if i put my afm in my piping then i can dose but then if i wanna use my stock airbox, i cant caz then i gotta muv my afm back to its original spot, any help here to over come it Some original photos have not been recovered yet.

easy solution dont dose did u try wat i said and pull the plug off ur afm and then start ur car and rev it? that shows u just how average they are with the afm not sending info to the ECU Some original photos have not been recovered yet.

Do I understand this correctly, you are looking to move the AFM just for the sound ? AFM = Air Flow Meter, it tells the computer exactly how much air the engine needs, so the computer can decide how much fuel to inject... AFM has thin platignum wires, it is delicate so dont clamp it to anything that vibrates etc...

Quote: Originally Posted by Niche Do I understand this correctly, you are looking to move the AFM just for the sound ? AFM = Air Flow Meter, it tells the computer exactly how much air the engine needs, so the computer can decide how much fuel to inject... AFM has thin platignum wires, it is delicate so dont clamp it to anything that vibrates etc... i understand where you are at about the sound and its purpose but if i want the sound i have to move it but if not, keep it on my original spot so the thing is, i cant keep moving it constantly

um yeh something like that? i think u jus need to make up ur mind as to where its gonna be. lol

You'll know it's not good, when you start loosing a large amount of fuel, and blowing an incredible amount of smoke out of your exhaust. Happened to my mate. Some original photos have not been recovered yet.

ok yes, I remember the times I used a clothes peg and put cardboard on the spokes of my push bike Those times will dissappear pretty soon and you will look back on these posts with a, how can I put it, "fresh perspective" So, my suggestion is:- a. Put AFM in the correct place so that:- 1. You dont waste limited amount of fuel 2. I can have a coffee by the side of the road and not get your smell b. Get a sound synthesiser and/or mp3 player rigged up to your gear lever or boost switch, cheers Some original photos have not been recovered yet.