27-06-05, 11:28 GMT+10#19 "Nice engine bay on that car. but now you have shown the pic's it will be copied by the back yard boys"
Seeing as how it takes an indexing head in a mill, a custom made jig to hold them, and a lot of experimenting to get right, every single angle has to be the exact same, and the angles between each cut have to be within 1 or 2 degarees or you end up with gaps. I doubt anyone will be copying it anytime soon. Besides, even if they could, if they were going to that much trouble to make the collector, they wouldn't be paying me to make one for them anyway, they'd just do it themselves.
"i doubt it as that collector while being a work of art,doesnt suit a rectangular flange"
Another typical comment. Thats like saying a round exhaust runner doesn't suit a oval exhaust port, like all DOHC nissans and most toyota's, but I'm pretty sure every exhuast manifold i've ever seen for one has round runners, not oval. The fact it has a round hole at the turbine plate means very little, it would actually help a bit. The hole is made to be the same width as the smallest part of the rectangular hole, so it meets 2 walls of the turbine housing perfectly. The 2 sides that are slightly inside the long side of rectangular inlet however, would stop reversion.
Ever heard of "laminar flow"?? Its the characteristic where intake and exhaust runners don't actually use all the diamter of the runner, they use almost to the outside, but leave 1 or 2 mm all the way round teh diameter where it just doesn't touch the wall of the runner. This area is where the air turns around when it hits a restriction or valve/turbo, and turns around and heads back the other way. In an intake manifold, this is where you get secondary and 3rd wave cylinder pulses, or what they sometimes call "ram tuning", and the reason tuned intakes work so well, the air that has travled backwards up the intake runner hits the inside of the plenum and turns around again, and pushs more air back down the intake runner. Its all a bit too complicted for me to write simply but you get the drift.
On the exhaust side, this can be a positive, or a negative. NA engines rely on some back pressure to make power. Some people have thougth this to be bull sh1t, but its not, the small amounts of burnt gasses and left over particles of fuel actually help get a better burn/combustion of the next cylinder fill. On a turbo engine however, there is ALWAYS back pressure, even on formula 1 engines of yesteryear which had the best intake/exhaust pressure ratio of anything yet. So anything whatsoever you can do to get more gass out of a turbo engine, the better. What does this hae to do with out rectagle turbo plate and round hole? Or laminar flow? Well, they actually used to make little cones that sat inside the runners exhaust runners in F1, with little steps in them, so the air that travled out of the head could flow forwards, but when it came back the other way under this "laminar flow" it would hit a series of little "shoulders" on the back square edge of the cone.
This stoped reversion, and when you have it in a turbo engine, it takes up even more space in the cylinder with too much waste gas, and limits the power of the next cylinder cycle. The shoulder that is left in the rectangle versus round runner stops the air turning around and heading back to the engine when it hits the restriction point, being the turbine wheel and start of the turbine scroll, it effectively acts like one of those reversion cones.
The only reason I could see that you would thing that it is no good is becuase of an eddy current on the back edge of it cuaseing a restriction, but it just doesn't happen in this situation, go grad an air blower or a water hose and turn it on full bore. Then stick it through a flat plate and tell me if that changes anything?? No, it doesn't, the air hammers out of this collector so god damn hard and at the turbine wheel so well, that the small lip your thinkin of isnt gonna stop anything. And if you wana find a 3rd party that has nothin to do with either of us, I'll prove it, I'll back to back one of my manifolds against yours and see who's makes more Hp and spools up the quickest. Let me know if your keen, I'd love to give it a go, and not even to be a prick or a hero, as a geniine back to back hp test against another manifold out there, the more feedback we all have the better we can build our cars.
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