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Started by Sipheren · 19 May 2005 · 27 replies

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SipherenArchived member
Why is it that the RB30e doesn�t seem to be able to obtain a lot of power without a turbo.....the most I have seen is around 150fwkw....I ask this because the 4.0L inline 6 out of E series Falcons with cam, extractors and an exhaust can put around 180fwkw......I am just curious to know why they don�t respond to n/a mods very well.....
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SteveArchived member
they do if u put a lot of money into them.
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MacoVLArchived member
vl= 3L falcon=4L thats the difference for starters. and they are newer motors with more ways to tweak. 150 fwkw is a good start i recon, i have not reached the limit of power output in my vl, i still have the factory throttle body, valves, valve springs and compression, and a factory standard spec cat (not high flow)
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SteveArchived member
Quote: Originally Posted by MacoVL vl= 3L falcon=4L thats the difference for starters. and they are newer motors with more ways to tweak. 150 fwkw is a good start i recon, i have not reached the limit of power output in my vl, i still have the factory throttle body, valves, valve springs and compression, and a factory standard spec cat (not high flow) so what have you done then? port and polish and cam?
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SipherenArchived member
the falcon motor's are as old as the RB30e.....but yeah....a cam and zorst isn't gunna cost you much and you get a decent amount of power gain from it....I just am curious to the actual reason for the rb30 not gaining much power....
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NSNPWRArchived member
Quote: Originally Posted by Sipheren Why is it that the RB30e doesn�t seem to be able to obtain a lot of power without a turbo.....the most I have seen is around 150fwkw....I ask this because the 4.0L inline 6 out of E series Falcons with cam, extractors and an exhaust can put around 180fwkw......I am just curious to know why they don�t respond to n/a mods very well..... They'd be the same as any N/A motor-Cam, Carby(Injection in this case) and Compression... Big dollars I would think for fairly small gains when you consider you have the option of bolting on instant pwr with a turbo. As was said previously with the comparison between the ford 4ltr and Rb30e, its all in the cubes, they make good torque being a big capacity six. Im sure you could get your RB30e grunting hard with a tough rebuild. Some original photos have not been recovered yet.
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coastvlArchived member
Theres a few around with 200+ rwhp or more. We just haven't seen much about them. Redcliffe Dyno built one or 2. Costs lots.
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MacoVLArchived member
Quote: Originally Posted by coastvl Redcliffe Dyno built one or 2. Costs lots. i wouldnt belive there dynos mate.
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MacoVLArchived member
Quote: Originally Posted by DasBlitz so what have you done then? port and polish and cam? yeh pretty much with more.
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roverArchived member
Quote: Originally Posted by coastvl Theres a few around with 200+ rwhp or more. We just haven't seen much about them. Redcliffe Dyno built one or 2. Costs lots. it worth paying money to go on they dyno. i think "JOEL' off this forum, put a xf t/b onto his standard vl, he thought it went alright so he took it to RD for a dyno run. he couldn't beleive how much power it had.......either could anybody else.......only mod xf t/b...180rwhp....just image if he had done a cam and chip 300rwhp!!
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SteveArchived member
lol i did an xf tb and my calais went slower at the drags..
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MacoVLArchived member
dasblitz, it should have given you more torque, unless you didnt tuen it up after wards.
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SipherenArchived member
ok....well thx for ya replys....I would go turbo anyway..I was just woundering what the go was....
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SteveArchived member
Quote: Originally Posted by MacoVL dasblitz, it should have given you more torque, unless you didnt tuen it up after wards. ok im a noob, wat needs to be tuned? the afm??
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MacoVLArchived member
oops sorry you not have programable ECU.
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SteveArchived member
yeah most ppl recon they just put it on and off they go and its more power... maybe a couple afm adjustments.. but i have nfi wat adjustments should be made to the afm
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MacoVLArchived member
you have to look at your ecu, two lights red and green, they are your fuel (red) green (air) mix, now i cant remember how the tune up went but both have to blink on off at the same time.
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SteveArchived member
ahhh maybe i should read my manual Some original photos have not been recovered yet.
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Blake7Archived member
my motor n/a 5speed... can someone list me every mode i can do to my motor without Turbo!! that bring me more power.. 5grand.. i got to play with..and what could i gain?
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JCArchived member
Mate, take a look at this http://www.calaisturbo.com.au/showthread.php?t=1158 <--- Got all you should need
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