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Straight gas Vs Emissions?

Started by Dansedgli · 18 Apr 2005 · 17 replies

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DansedgliArchived member
Hey guys, I thought maybe some of you could help me here. Im looking at buying a car with an aftermarket turbo. I cant get it engineered without that $4000 epa testing crap if its on petrol. Does anyone know if having straight gas will allow me to go without this expensive testing? Does straight LPG still let you get around getting EPA'd? I asked my engineer and he still said I needed the test done in a lab to get a certificate saying it meets emissions before he puts a compliance plate on it. Can anyone help? Thanks a lot.
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HSVQUEArchived member
EPA engineers can be costly and tricky.. Running your car on Gas will get you around EPA.. but it aswell isnt cheap if you also want to go quick.. and you wont need a ECU with Gas Just ignition i think... Also try doing a search http://www.calaisturbo.com.au/search.php? should find some more good info. Rob Some original photos have not been recovered yet.
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nicko01Archived member
yeah best thing about gas, no epa ****!
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DansedgliArchived member
Well I just rang the EPA and I will still need to have the emissions tested on gas. He said for a conversion like that the Straight gas route is really only good for cars that were carbueretted previously. Newer cars will still need the test straight gas or not It must be different for you guys having the factory turbo as an option. FARK! Im not happy. Does anyone know if emissions can be tested elsewhere? Some original photos have not been recovered yet.
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HSVQUEArchived member
Some places do full emmisions testing.. I know Ford does it..cost's around $4000... not cheap.. I didnt notice you didnt own a VL, otherwise my Reply would of been differnt.. lol. Rob
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DansedgliArchived member
I have decided to keep my car and not upgrade anyway now. There is no point spending 25K on a new car when I can be defected in my own one lol. Time to get the EB running 11's I think.
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HSVQUEArchived member
Just buy an XR6T and get a AfterMarket Computer Fitted.. Easy Power upto a certain point.. Or just Keep it Sl33p3r Some original photos have not been recovered yet.
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DansedgliArchived member
Thats what I figure, an XR6T will be mid 20's by next year. Or I could just buy aVL and be done with it.
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turbopowerArchived member
guys VL'S on gas are not epa legal the straight gas thing to get around epa's only apply's to pre 86 model cars ring the epa if the car has bigger turbo ect then it needs an adr37 epa test vipac ( www.vipac.com.au (http://www.vipac.com.au) ) do it for about $2400 so bottom line if your vl has any non standard parts turbo ecu plenthum cooler & pod filter ect ect even if you put it on gas its still not legal don�t bother arguing with me replying back yes it is just RING THE EPA AND ASK THEM
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DansedgliArchived member
I agree with above, thats exactly what I was told today. Is it only $2400 for the test?
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GAS747Archived member
If you have a striaght gas car, you must ensure it is COMPLIENCED otherwise it will not be EPA legal. Keep in mind stuff like external wastegates, catch can's venting etc are still illegal Some original photos have not been recovered yet.
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DansedgliArchived member
Are external gates illegal?
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turbopowerArchived member
from what i'v been told you still need an ADR-37 epa test. paul do you mean the ADR-37 epa test when you say COMPLIENCED ? if so disregard this post and have a nice day Some original photos have not been recovered yet.
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turbopowerArchived member
only if plumbed back and you have this ADR-37 test done because its NOT STANDARD from the factory
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DansedgliArchived member
To compliance it through an engineer they make you get it ADR 37 tested first before they will approve anything, this is the problem Im having at the moment. Farken EPA!
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vltrb-0Archived member
so paul, when u say complienced u mean u have the ADR-37 test completed on yoru car? does that mea if i had the same mods on my car that your test applies? and what did the test cost or is it $1600 or so dollars as said before? thanks chris
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HSVQUEArchived member
Yes anything that vents is illegal.. Catchcans are allowed but they have to be sealed units so no venting.. External Gates are also illegal because they vent Gases.. Like Bov's.. thats why cars that have a standard bov's have the bov plumbed back/vented back into the system.. Incase someone didnt know Rob Some original photos have not been recovered yet.
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vlt5spwagArchived member
but an external gate that has the outlet plumbed back into the main exhaust (and not a screamer pipe) would theoretically be legal, yes? assuming you could get an engineer to pass the turbo, and pass emissions... lol
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