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2pack vs Acrylic

Started by treziser · 30 June 2004 · 82 replies

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treziserArchived member
How much difference is in the end result between the two? Has anyone got any pics and how much difference is there in price? Any help would be great
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aus880Archived member
I'm told that acrylic isn't any good now because the new stuff doesn't have lead in it like it used to. Hence it doesn't stick well and weathers easily
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LUVNITArchived member
Bake it on, 2pak is heaps better. SiM
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hugofirstArchived member
Ive always thought Acrylic looks better, if looked after! meaning - NO SUN! So show cars only??? So at the end of the day, if you actually DRIVE your car - 2pack!
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poida24Archived member
Quote: Originally Posted by LUVNIT Bake it on, 2pak is heaps better. SiM 2pak is heaps better. yeah but dont "bake it" just let it dry at a nice temp and the finish will be heaps better, acrylic is not as durable..
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ITSGMHArchived member
I'm all for 2-pak too, but ask "sikcalais", he does this sh!t for a living, and from what I've seen is mighty good at it too!!!!
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sikcalaisArchived member
Quote: Originally Posted by ITSGMH I'm all for 2-pak too, but ask "sikcalais", he does this sh!t for a living, and from what I've seen is mighty good at it too!!!! thanks paul, yeah go 2-pak, acrilic stays soft for eva, not that soft that you can fingerprint it but sun attacks bad, acrilic is a lot more work to get looking good. 2-pak dry,s harder, it has uv protectent (sunscrean), easyer to get a show quality finish, more variety in colours, ie pearls, candys, chrome illusions. the price difference is a lot but definantly worth it. by the way dont leave 2-pak to dry in a nice temp it is designed to be baked at around 65 70 degrees, 2-pak doesnt cure properly for about 3 months even when baked, and you wont get a heaps better finish through not baking it sorry, baking causes the paint to flow until the chemical reaction happens (curing), thanks steve
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duz360Archived member
im just about to start on mine. i was gonna do it at home with 2k but now youve scared me with that baking bit.what would it finish like without baking?
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pcleary1Archived member
an oven only speeds up the drying time, this is why a paint shop has one. slow drying means better finish.
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aus880Archived member
Quote: Originally Posted by duz360 im just about to start on mine. i was gonna do it at home with 2k but now youve scared me with that baking bit.what would it finish like without baking? A mate does 2 pac regularly without baking and it turns out o.k. Just beware of the fumes as it's carcenogenic so use a proper respirator
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poida24Archived member
Quote: Originally Posted by pcleary1 an oven only speeds up the drying time, this is why a paint shop has one. slow drying means better finish. thats right couldnt have said it better my self..
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poida24Archived member
Quote: Originally Posted by sikcalais thanks paul, yeah go 2-pak, acrilic stays soft for eva, not that soft that you can fingerprint it but sun attacks bad, acrilic is a lot more work to get looking good. 2-pak dry,s harder, it has uv protectent (sunscrean), easyer to get a show quality finish, more variety in colours, ie pearls, candys, chrome illusions. the price difference is a lot but definantly worth it. by the way dont leave 2-pak to dry in a nice temp it is designed to be baked at around 65 70 degrees, 2-pak doesnt cure properly for about 3 months even when baked, and you wont get a heaps better finish through not baking it sorry, baking causes the paint to flow until the chemical reaction happens (curing), thanks steve as you would no there are different 2pak's that go off at room temp..
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duz360Archived member
so i should enquire about what temp the paint will cure at before i buy?
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poida24Archived member
Quote: Originally Posted by duz360 so i should enquire about what temp the paint will cure at before i buy? yes thats right, in protec there is 604 its a cheaper paint but drys in a couple of hours..
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duz360Archived member
Quote: Originally Posted by poida24 yes thats right, in protec there is 604 its a cheaper paint but drys in a couple of hours.. sounds good. im after candy blue, do they do that in 604
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GRN-747Archived member
hell yeh 2pack is a much nicer finish where as arcylic after spraying the clear base coats only you have to cut and polish which a **** to do who can be ****ed 2pack is so much better nicer finish too but can be a **** at time especialy fry ups cuased by rub throughs etc anyways go 2pack
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sikcalaisArchived member
hey people, when did i ever say that you CANT paint a car without an oven, i said dont for various reasons. 1. 2-pak is designed for an oven and if the paint doesnt reach a certain temp the paint will never cure properly because the chemical reaction needs the heat to work properly 2. you paint a car without an oven you get a lot more dirt in the job, thats a real prick to get rid of 3. because the paint takes longer that means its softer for longer so also dirt gets into it more 4. paint flows differently in different temps, baking at 60 degrees allows the paint to flow and even out. Quote: slow drying means better finish. thats a load of **** sorry mate, haha, yeah right slow drying=better finish, what a crock, do you paint cars mate or anyone who has thrown there opinion in? as you would no there are different 2pak's that go off at room temp.. yes there are, BUT, they are designed for small fast jobs, ie 1 or 2 panels, you paint a respray in that and good luck when you have to cut n polish the **** out of it, thanks steve
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duz360Archived member
sikcalais do you think im wasting my time doing the job at home.i have a mate who has a booth i could probably use.its just gonna make it harder for me as i was gonna do it every arvo when i get home, but the end result is what its all about hey. whats your honest opinion mate
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sikcalaisArchived member
u can do the prep work at home, like primer and rubbing it all down then drive it to the booth, or tow it and your laughin, trust me mate a booth is DEFINANTLY worth while, use a booth for sure and also without using a booth u risk a lot of silicon, prepsol cleans the panels but not the air
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duz360Archived member
Quote: Originally Posted by sikcalais u can do the prep work at home, like primer and rubbing it all down then drive it to the booth, or tow it and your laughin, trust me mate a booth is DEFINANTLY worth while, use a booth for sure and also without using a booth u risk a lot of silicon, prepsol cleans the panels but not the air thanks mate.with the candy is there any special silver i should use. i want it to be really bright
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