hey fellas, does anyone know of any good places around brissy (mostly northside) that are good places to practice s**t in a car. By this i mean a paddock or a huge open space somewhere, where i can go and get sideways, do burnouts etc without the risk of hittin anythin. Ive had an accident once already in the wet and no im scared drivin in the wet as i was lucky to come out alive (the pic on the left shows where i hit the pole). I wanna teach myself how to control a car without freakin out and also wanna learn to have a bit of fun occaisionally. How did/do you guys learn? ive been told a paddock can be alot like the wet. I just wanna learn to be able to control a car without hittin poles etc as you would on the street if you didnt have proper control. Thanks Guys

you should do a defencive driving course mate

yer that holden defence driving thing is pretty good there isnt many paddocks around brisbane that u can rip to shreds without drawing attention to yourself

just try industrial areas, but wherever you go dont stay there long.

Save up and go the the Holden driver training center or go to something similar. I joined a Mazda car club in Sydney about 18 years ago. motor karna and drift days are a good place to learn control of your car. It doesn't matter what you drive or how bad you are. Join a car club and you'll learn heaps off the older guys as well. Watch and learn. Don't practice on the street. You'll end up killing yourself or somebody else.

hrmm.. If u wanna do the stuff u speak of, without an 80% chance of crashing everytime and killing urself, or hitting poles, or making urself look like a fool in front of all ur mates... *Read motorsport related books/magazines *Watch motorsport on TV - F1. v8's, indycars, speedcars, go karts. *Play Gran Turismo instead of grand theft auto Master wat u want to do on the screen, then when u get it perfect.. its just a matter of applying the same thing in ur car on bitumen.... There is a fair bit of skill involved i guess.. but even before that u need to understand how everything works on ur car.. know how ur reactions will affect the car when its sideways etc etc etc.... and then it all just comes naturally dude Some original photos have not been recovered yet.

lol...Gran Turismo....I think mastering the drift in NFS Underground is more the key

no way master drift in grand turismo its hard but can be done if u as exchaser said learn that doin one thing will affect how the direction of the car will go while u r tryin to slide around a corner

haha na no **** dude.. gran turismo is the place to 'try out' new things before 'trying them out' on the street.. if it works ok in the game.. then chances are u can do it on the street.. if you end up in the wall on the game.. picture hitting a power poll on the street.. i totally swear by the fact that if u learn how to drift on gran turismo.. and u can go lap after lap of any track. in pure drift style 100% in control.. as long as u have 2 feet and 2 hands in real life. and half a brain.. u'll be pretty good on the street.. speaking from my own experience.. like anything tho i guess it depens how far u wat to push to be 'better' haha cant wait till i get my car on the road.... Some original photos have not been recovered yet.

Of course if u understand how a car works.. and how differnt inputs from the driver affect how everthing works, as well as how individual things affect eachother in each case.. for example: steering wheel positon, brakes, throttle, gear selection, handbrake, the surface of the road, the condition of the tyres, the angle of ur car, how much space u have to carry out wat ur doin, the speed at which u are doin it and so on.. blah blah.. you are already in a better position than someone who doesnt even know wat an LSD is ? if u get where im comin from. I mean... like u get these heros who rekon they can do all this ****.. and they dont even know anything about the key mechanical components in which make it possible for them to do such and such fullysik ****.... i hate it when mates and **** tell me about **** they pulled off haha. the same mates that i know, KNOW **** all about cars haha.. lol gran turismo is a 'fun' way to begin learning about car components and driving skills etc, without sitting in a desk in a classroom being taught the same **** on a blackboard from some 60 year old 'professional driver'. I still swear by it.. The street and dirt tracks are alot of fun aswell tho.. Some original photos have not been recovered yet.

Quote: Originally Posted by 251NFL you should do a defencive driving course mate so should u Some original photos have not been recovered yet.

Yeah man Neno has serious road dirving agression issues! Mad prick. But then again I can't talk - my colt is a weapon

Quote: my colt is a weapon I'd go more with 'WEAPON OF MASS (SELF)DESTRUCTION'

lol gt4???....is that how u guys practiced??? heehee.....is that with the steering wheel or controller dude???? Some original photos have not been recovered yet.

Gran Turismo 3... I'm not taking the piss here either, I think it's an excellent way to seriously find out whats possible in a car. The driving dynamics in the game are quite realistic even if you are only using your fingers... (he's only talking about the normal hand controller btw) haha this sounds so lame but I agree with it. As for locations, first off... find a grass paddock... do not try new things on the street. And if you really have to, I suggest doing it somewhere where the roads are wide, and there's nothing (or not much) to hit... like someone said, an industrial area is the go... another thing... do it in the wet... I think it's more forgiving in some aspects, i.e sideways kickback when you're just learning and are too scared to keep the foot in it to power out of a slide, can be a real bitch in the dry. You'll be facing some way you never thought was possible before you know it. Anyway don't be silly. be sensible and above all I think, try this **** by yourself, don't be showing off, thats when dumb stuff goes down Jay Some original photos have not been recovered yet.

cheers man. Some original photos have not been recovered yet.

haha this thread is good.. chonna good to see that u've put wat has happened behind u and are willing to get in there and have a go at learning how to do it all properly and safely... its good... as for wat JVL said about starting off in the wet.. i agree with this... however even before that.. start off on dirt tracks.. I know of a really good place out near my join that i used to frequent every weekend and during the week sometimes to do fun crazy things in cars... a few of us have been out there before.. PVL087 and JVL aswell... i think we got some cool vids out there once also.. but yeh i used to hack up dirt tracks heaps before it became 'boring' and i started goin through tyres like every fortnight.. haha then i progressed to trying out the same **** on dirt on wet bitumen... and again.. wet is better than dry.. as a car handles totally differnt in the wet as opposed to the dry do to many reasons. the most obvious being 'more traction'... wat i can get away with in the wet when u **** up... will be alot harder to get away with in the dry. When u first start out.. u'll get kicks off just gettin slighty sideways and thats it.. u'll probably back off when u get sideways... and that is where u'll learn about 'over correcting' hopefully before u even try anything u'll read all about this.. and watch vids of other people doing it so that its less likely to bight u in the ass.. when u get more confident u'll begin to play with ur feet more and u'll eventually get mega sideways and learn to use the thottle as the next thing to help keep u in control.. (of course too much throttle can result in bad things as can too little throttle..) finfing the perfect balance is wat ur always aiming to do to stay in control.. Then.. when u've mastered the wet.. which definately doesnt happen over night. and the extent at which u master it will depend on how much time and money ur willing to put into it.. hehe.. I remember leaving home at 2am in the morning just because its started raining to go practise drifting. Spending 10 bucks to have a bit of fun and then goin back to the servo and putting another 10 bucks in again to have more and more fun and then gettin home at 4am in the morning.. used to do this all the time... but like i said... depends how much money u wanna spend.. doin this all the time has cost me 2 heads and 4 head gaskets... aswell as a few sets of tyres.. LOTS of petrol and a ****ed gearbox.. haha but i dont really care.. cause at the end of the day.. i've had heaps of fun, i know wat level im at in terms of how confident i am and my mates have had a ball aswell... not to mention other motorists who toot and give the thumbs up when they see some mega sweet **** not that thats really a good thing... one night i was drifting this very cool roundabout (pretty big on) so as u come round u cannot see wat traffic is approaching.. anyway coming round very nice.. saw a car.. had a look over my shoulder and thought hmmm better stop incase its a cop.. ohh lucky i did, i was still sidways when i saw him,. so surely he must have seen me sideways.. anyway.. to cut a long story short.. he followed me for a few km's about 3cm from my rear bumper and then left me alone when i was far from that area.. lucky he followed so close.. as if hed been further back he would have seen sparks comin from the metal patches on my tyres hehehe but that was a close call... think i made the right decision to back out when i did... Anyway i talk too much... If ur gunna do it.. do it properly and in the right areas at the right times.. or U GET CAUGHT.. other motorists are always of concern remember.. peace out Some original photos have not been recovered yet.

haha its funny i been on one of those courses lol i should take a gear selection course lol

thanks for the tips guys. I dont want to do it so i can show off. i want to do it so when i get into that situation i won't freak out. i want to be able to be used to something different to normally drivin in a straight line..........................................................................and so i can have a bit of fun occaisionally!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Some original photos have not been recovered yet.

Go read the manual in gran turismo 1/2(gran turismo 3 don't have it). Its like 100 pages and tells you how to do all the things in real life.