Not suprisingly its happened again. Go and Have a good laugh at this 'non biased' 'deep analysis' between the R31 on the VL. Lots to learn about how to write a review between two models. Heres the link.. http://www.r31skylineclub.com/forum/...;threadid=5931 (http://www.r31skylineclub.com/forum/index.php?board=10;action=display;threadid=5931) Enjoy

Interesting that it's a "non-biased" opinion, yet half way through the "report" the writer clearly states "I would much prefer the skyline", thus voiding the second half of the "report", and to an extent, the first. Also interesting they chose a TI for the "unmodded" pic, yet a GXE for the "modded" version. Was the fact that the VL came with a turbo from factory, whilst the skyline didnt totally neglected on purpose, or simply forgotten? And how about the fact that (in my experience at least) a stock VL will out-handle a stock R31 Skyline? Perhaps I'm just an extraordinary driver, but I've proved it before and would prove it again anyday around the twisties.

that has got to be the most "biased" thing i have ever read... If i could be farked logging in their and writting something i would.. maybee tonight if i'm bored.. I got nothing against R31, when done up they can look preety good... But the sh|t he said in their was totally crap.. (about the R31) "But give it a second look, you'll start to notice the architecture of the car, the lines, it seems like every object is placed where ever it is for a reason. Lets start with the bonnet, although really boxy in a way, note that there are 2 indents leading up to the front windscreen. They are put there for a reason. It gaves me the image of some sort of an eyebrow, it does contribute to the 'meaner' look as oppose to VL's plain flat round bonnet." that is the funniest sh|t i have ever read... eyebrows.. lol... on a freak! also ... "You say holden have good cars now..... TRUE!!! You know why?? cause they stoped making them in Australia and started importing them from Europe.... The new Monaro... the new Astra.... ALL From europe... " funny sh|t.. as some else in their said.. wtf? monaro from europe?

hahah that guy is so stupid! so.....very.....many......mistakes in his argument. i especially like the way he quite obviously thinks that the R31 looks better in stock form, i think everyone agrees that a stock R31 looks like ass compared to a stock VL. he actually LIKES their "boxy" lines, why?

You have to ask yourself why write such a bul|**** article and post it? Posting "I like Boxy skylines over Plane VLs" would have saved him the hours of running around and writing out of his arse. Comparing a TI to a Berlina? it should have been TI to Calais. And perhaps an Aero to the GXE or what have you. I think all Non calais front VLs look sh!t apart from the walkinshaw and red groupa. If it aint a calais or hdt/hsv it doesnt appeal to me, hence why i bought a calais The TI interior has it over the mellow calais apart from the TI/Skyline dash which resembles a VK. Anyway, its obvious that this guy is a troll whos intention is to stir sh!t up. Let him be and let him get smoked by a vlt anyday They are just upset that htey didnt get a bonus snail with their motor Some original photos have not been recovered yet.

"The skyline's Rear has 4 circle tail lights, which IS the trademark of Skyline... and nissan ofcause. These tail lights yet again gives it a tougher look as opposed to VL's common rectangle.... These 4 circle tail lights resembles that of 4 angry eyes. Its effectiveness comes into play at night. As anyone who drives out there without doubt knows a 4 circle tail light belongs to a SKYLINE this trademark is so deep it actually over runs other companies with circle tail lights... like farari ) So here is another point for style and unique feature of the Skyline.... If you look at the rear of a VL, you'll prolly think its a VK. no sign of any unique feature... like i said before... plain." This bit just really doesnt make sense, he contradicts himself. He says how the round lights have to be from a skyline but a vl lights look like a vk. Nob, a vk is still a commodore you moron. Yeah and if you look at the lights of a skyline you think its a corvette, yes thats unique isnt it!

what a tool.. we should write these in his topic... he farked himself up a few times... tool...

Quote: also thats why they placed the airbox in the VL's WRONG.... (LOLOLOLOL) What a tool, for a start the air-box is totally different. Not to mention being proven as a bloody good one by Autospeed. Quote: The new Monaro... the new Astra.... ALL From europe... He's wrong yet again. Quote: yes holden perhaps did Design the turbo, And if they were so good... why dont they design the RB30 instead of leeching it from Nissan That one really proved his intellect. Holden accepted purchase of the RB30 provided they would also get the turbo variant (Designed by Nissan). Part of the deal was that Nissan couldnt turbocharge any of their Australian models. So Holden too laid down their conditions. It wasnt bloody leeching it was a business transaction. Nissan did the exact same thing, swapping Patrols for XF Utes with Ford. Bringing about the Mavarick and Nissan Badged XF Utes. Quote: Did you know that there always HAD been RB30DET in japan?? Sorry champ got it wrong there too, the JDM only ever had RB30DE's (with no shortage of grunt). Quote: i thought not... since they are so Rare and Aussies dont have them... But why dont the VL Turbos try to drag an R31 import off the line? Even HR31 drivers will admit a stock VLT will have a RB20DET down the quarter. Maybe a GTS-R would but its a limited build car so it would have to be compared to a Walky. Quote: I believe that an RB30DET in a skyline would Anyday RIP a VL RB30ET RAJAB would have a thing or two to say about that Well Im over it, what a waste of bandwidth and a total contradiction. Some original photos have not been recovered yet.

What a tosser. Non-biased. What a waste of time. The guy clearly doesn't know what he is on about. And then they start bagging us about how aour DNS name got nicked. I'm gunna go on there and create havoc. Heheheheheh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I think we just found our tool of the Week Some original photos have not been recovered yet.

lol.. true..

hey guys i'm pinching a few of these points to put in the skyline forums, if you have anything against it let me know and i'll take your one out. I also i wont put nicks in it.. this is really starting to sh|t me... unbiased.. pfffft!

I dont really like VL commodores that much (more of a calais man), but id have to say thay look better than those old skylines, their ugly mother f**kers.

Sure alliance_22 has made a few errors in his asscessment of the 2 vehicles, but I am sure there is no malice / **** stirring intended. I think you guys are getting just a 'touch' excited about it all....is it quiet on these forums at the moment or something? I made a few replies in the thread under the name of GTS2TURBO....which defend the VL's somewhat....I have'nt seen any mention of this...only the negative comments! Oh..and come on 'JR84VK5L'....you state you dont like 'Ugly Mother F#ckers' yet sport a picture of Mark Holden as your Avatar :P Some original photos have not been recovered yet.

Quote: Originally Posted by sr20trx you state you dont like 'Ugly Mother F#ckers' yet sport a picture of Mark Holden as your Avatar :P I must admit that picture does upset me.. it's very weird... lol

LOL....yeah the guy is a Knob! At least Ian D i c k o has some Wit.....and Marcia some Breasts Some original photos have not been recovered yet.

Quote: Originally Posted by sr20trx Sure alliance_22 has made a few errors in his asscessment of the 2 vehicles, but I am sure there is no malice / **** stirring intended. Oh..and come on 'JR84VK5L'....you state you dont like 'Ugly Mother F#ckers' yet sport a picture of Mark Holden as your Avatar :P agree with your first statement , and laugh with your second.