Hi, Was wondering where the best place is that people have found to stick some tweeters in the VL. I am thinking on getting these ones from JayCar (http://www1.jaycar.com.au/productView.asp?ID=CS2210). Any feedback welcome.

my tweeters are mounted in the door same height as the window winder handle but towards the front on each side, they work well

I stuck mine into the dash mat on either side, angled upwards at about 25-35 degrees. But you can also put them in the A piller and all sorts of places!

Ideally, you'd have them facing each other for imaging purposes, but really, you can mount them any where that suits your fancy. Try on top of your 4" grills, or even under them (replacing your 4"ers). Otherwise you can stick them in your bum bum.

um actually i thought you wouldnt want the tweeters pointin at each other cuz this would cause major cancelation. I think the best place to put them/angle them, would be towards the opposite headrest from low down in the door or kicks, however placing them higher may raise the soundstage slighly

I put mine in my airvents!

I found that in the VL i had, with the Pioneer bullet series splits, the best place to have them was as VL Commy said, facing the oposite headrest and right back in the corners. I had them angled up towards the windscreen slightly and found that being in the corner like that, it used the windscreen as a sound barrier and was bouncing off the windscreen providing a crisp clear sound right the width of the front stage.

Don't kid yourselves fellas! Facing them directly at each other in no way cancels them out. The sound waves actually combine to produce a stronger sound, enhancing imaging. They'll only cancell out if they are out of phase.

Quote: Originally Posted by jamiestraks Hi, Was wondering where the best place is that people have found to stick some tweeters in the VL. I am thinking on getting these ones from JayCar (http://www1.jaycar.com.au/productView.asp?ID=CS2210). Any feedback welcome. Excellent choice Some original photos have not been recovered yet.

I mounted my Infinity Reference Split tweeters on the 4" speaker grills, angled towards the front seats (ie straight at driver/passenger) and simply screwed up from underneath the grill into the back of the tweeter case thing. Sounds good to me.

those tweeters rock, my mate installed a pair in his eb falcon... they sound mint

put some bluetack on the back of them and experiment with positions. thats the easiest way. stick them somewhere and sit in your car and play some tunes, remember that you are the driver and most of the time the only one in the car so put them where it sounds good to you not for your passengers. ads

I've always found that when people mount them at the top of the A Pillar it always sounds good... 8)

People say this and that, but it comes down to you. The best place to put them is where they sound good to you. :mrgreen: You could use blu-tak to temp mount them untill you find the right spot that sounds good for you. As for car sound competitions, the tweeters should help to reinforce the front soundstage. The aim is to get the distance between the left and right tweeters equal. Easy in theory but hard in practice. As proven by many winners of car audio comps, the best place without major work to the dash is actually the kick panels with the tweeters no more then 10 inches away from the mid/woofer. This obviously wont look as in your face as up on the pillar but it will produce a more realistic soundstage and replicate the recorded music as close as possible.

yeah but then imaging goes out the window. To perform best in comps, you need to get a good mix of staging AND imaging.

As I said,BurgundyCalais, if you get the distance equal you would get a perfect soundstage/ perfect imaging. (the distance to your ears, not to each other) I'm not sure what you know, and your understanding of terms and theory's in the audio industry but soundstage and imaging is the same although sometimes confused. IMAGING = The measure of a system's ability at reproducing the original sizes and locations of the instruments and to place specific phantom images of a recording. SOUNDSTAGE = The messure of a system's ability at reproducing audible information about the size, shape, and acoustical characteristics of the original recording space and the placement of the performers within it from an original recording accurately. Some original photos have not been recovered yet.

yeah but talk to big time installers (at least up the coast and some at my work) and they use the term 'stage' as a reference to getting front/rear time and space corrections for soundwaves. They use imaging to guage left/right corrections. I don't know if this is the technical meaning behind the words, but it's what seems to be used most frequently (in my experiences). So, accoustical properties need to be taken into acount, not just distances. Most of the real nitty gritty stuff goes over my head, but a simple way of setting up a good sounding front end is to have speakers facing each other and either adjusting timing (if you head unit allows) or balance to achieve a relatively accurate front image.

I guess you must work for brisbane car sound I am not dissing your skills or ability, but you should at least know what you are talking about if you are giving others help/support information. Whether they are "big time installers" or not, YOU should only quote what you know. You may have misunderstood what they were saying (quite easy to do) or they too are making a common mistake by using the term stage/soundstage etc. Your not totally wrong, just slightly mixed. Installers do measure the loudness and timing of the front and rear STAGES or SOUNDSTAGES, but using this term as what they are doing is incorrect. In a car with it's unique contours and physical shape, it is ideal to have a little rear fill to help support and/or reinforce the front soundstage. I think that if you asked your bosses and/or supervisor I'm sure they will agree with me, and my explanation of soundstage/stage. People sometimes need support without judgement, which is what these forums provide, so keep on helping and supporting, just be sure what you are telling them is factual. Some original photos have not been recovered yet.

Get a dolby digital 5.1 then you can do about any thing cost lot though as others said put them were your ears like em

I wasn't referring to rear stage as an important factor. When talking about setting up a good front stage, it involves trying to draw bass brom the rear of the car, where the woofer is almost definately mounted, up to the front. But this is besides the point.