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3000 rpm stally + daily driving... good idea ?

Started by InsaneVL · 23 Dec 2002 · 29 replies

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InsaneVLArchived member
As the topic says - Is a 3000 rpm stally (on a 4sp Jatco from a VLT) ok for daily driving and getting around ? or is it gonna be a bitch ? How will it go on the highway where im normally sitting on 2000 revs (100kph) or 2200 revs (110 kph) ??
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OVL087Archived member
she'll be sweet , havent u dropped it in yet?
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InsaneVLArchived member
not yet - havent had time to put it in (or any help :?)
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RooFArchived member
go bigger people sometimes have the wrong idea about hi stalls. even a 4000rpm stall still has good driveability Some original photos have not been recovered yet.
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stockvltArchived member
Yeah I run a 3500rpm stall behind Jatco, drive it every day and it's fine, on the highway once your up to 100km just cruises like any other car. 3000rpm would be fine for street and everyday use, make sure you run a least one big tranny cooler.
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VL CALAIS LE TURBOArchived member
Go for it I have 3200 stall, I wish I had gone 3800 or something. I think Auto VL Turbos need a high stall to get of the linel. GO HIGHER DUDE
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nathoArchived member
whats the difference when driving? just the initial take off (revs go up quick) and reversing etc (especially up hills)??
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X-RB3-747Archived member
More sluggish if you are doing a normal take off, it sorta revs higher before you start moving anywhere. I don't know but I'm finding it very hard to explain properly Some original photos have not been recovered yet.
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InsaneVLArchived member
so will it sit on 3000 revs on the highway when it normally does 2200 ??? or will it only slip (to 3000) on take-off, or when i give it a bit of power ??
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FormulaVLArchived member
I wanted a hi-stall in my crapco, and the transmission doods at Ratco told me that a hi-stall would be useless as cat's piss unless you have a different cam set up ie. specific profile allowing the power to kick in at certain revs ideally to match the hi-stall speed otherwise like mentioned before, it will be sluggish off the line with the stock turbo cam. It kinda makes sense, but can anyone else verify this?
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X-RB3-747Archived member
I don't have a stock turbo cam and it is still sluggish off the line. It mainly all depends on what turbo you have. Standard T04's spool up at about 3200-3400, so a stall convertor around that area would be extremely useful
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South2Archived member
Insane no it will maitain the 2200rpm at 110kph, but it wont be fully engaged until it hits 3000rpm. So punch it at 2200rpm, it'll take off slowly, rev out to 3000, start to pick up, then take off. Most autos are still slipping at 100kph, well not most, but the bigger rwd cars do, even mums camry has a bit left in it. Like said above, theres no real point in going so much higher over standard if your cams are standard also. Thats the main reason for installing one. So you can be in the torque band as soon as you launch...
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InsaneVLArchived member
hence the reason im putting the 3000 stally in.. the cam in my car doesnt get power till about 3000... grandma's with full shopping trolleys can beat me off the line at the moment as i have NO low down power...
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RooFArchived member
yep good move insanevl, nothing worse than that.. I knows the feeling. I had my 2200 stall in my old VL V8 for a while - until I saved up again for 3500 stall and extra tranny cooler. I tell ya what it was the biggest piece of **** ever... laggy as ****.. with that 2200 stall. lose to any V6 commodore, the cam and head combo was made for 3200 stall minimum.. so yer you get my drift? 8)
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RooFArchived member
Hang on "So punch it at 2200rpm, it'll take off slowly, rev out to 3000, start to pick up, then take off" that aint right South, it will sit at the normal rev's, when you punch it - it will stall up quickly and launch - it jumps straight to that 3000, no lag or waiting around, or as you put it take off slowly? wtf?
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INFLYTArchived member
Just remember cruising around the street's under your converter heat's the trans up leading to premature failure
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vlt06Archived member
I had a 3000 and drove fine as, then went to a 4000 felt no difference on the road. Rest is up to you Some original photos have not been recovered yet.
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jasoncngoArchived member
I dont know much about Hi-stalls but I have experinece to tell you guys.. I had a beefed up tranny (still is), I didnt install the Hi-stall (3200). I used the normal converter... The tranny would not change gears from 1st to 2nd til 5000rpm because of the stage II kit. and it would not miss gears either.. The shift was rock hard that you felt it everytime it changed gears. I think its for take off and all that. I personally didnt like it, its not for me so I removed the modified valve body and installed a normal one in and I am happy.. Hi-Stalls are good to take offs, you stall it up... Some original photos have not been recovered yet.
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GMH-3OLArchived member
Quote: Originally Posted by InsaneVL As the topic says - Is a 3000 rpm stally (on a 4sp Jatco from a VLT) ok for daily driving and getting around ? or is it gonna be a bitch ? How will it go on the highway where im normally sitting on 2000 revs (100kph) or 2200 revs (110 kph) ?? whats your box like tho. if its std, apparently the converter won't last long. get a pretty big transmission cooler. they help keep the box stronger longer, and decrease the heat and eliminate the sweat patch you build up on your left leg's calf muscle... beef it up, and it would work like a dream hope this helps! Some original photos have not been recovered yet.
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InsaneVLArchived member
I have a tranny cooler, its about 300mm x 200mm at the moment - will this do till i can save up for a larger tranny cooler ?? will a larger one be needed ??
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